[ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?

Tue Nov 2 10:29:51 CDT 2010

The average temperature today is 2 degrees lower than it was yesterday.
Scientific proof that CO2 causes global warming and that breath holding 
works to solve the problem. I don't need no stinking hockey stick!

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From: Maury Siskel <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
To: gelsg at aol.com; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu; cooleyguy at yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 12:54:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?

In accordance with The Instructions, I stopped breathing and held my breath in 
my hands. I became distracted by a passing greenhouse and accidentally dropped 
my breath. Being a bit drowsy, I was not able to see where it went -- I've 
searched all of the floor, under the furniture, and in the closet. My dog has 
been checked, but he is all out of breath. I cannot find my breath and am in 
need of help.
Thanks for your assistance,
Maury&Dog [Maury Siskel  maurysis at peoplepc.com]
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gelsg at aol.com wrote:

> Honest to God, I didn't notice that it was going to the whole list.  I thought 
>I was just replying to Larry.  But it is what I was thinking, so start holding 
>your breath, you climate-change-denier......
> 
> Jerry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Guy Cooley <cooleyguy at yahoo.com>
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List 
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> Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 7:46 pm
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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> So contrived!
> uy
> gelsg at aol.com wrote:
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> Larry:
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> I almost sent the same email.  (Glad it was you instead.)
> I agree.  A good leader (like Ed) should lead by example.  :-)
> 
> Jerry Gels
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jess L. Addis III <ajess at clemson.edu>
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List' 
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> Sent: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 2:27 pm
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
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> Great idea!  Do us a favor Ed, you go first.
> Larry Addis
> -----Original Message-----
> rom: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Edmond Baratta
> ent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:31 AM
> o: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> ubject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
> Jerry:
> We must first stop breathing for at least one hour of a day.  Think of how uch 
>CO2 we will save.  First start with the Governments.  However the rees, plants, 
>grass will not appreciate this.
> Ed Baratta
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> rom: "Rosen, Jerry C" <jcrosen at pitt.edu>
> ent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:23 PM
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> ist" radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> ubject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
>  
>> 1. The Green House Effect is a recognized scientific fact.
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> 2. It is recognized that CO2 contributes to the phenomenon.
> 3. Modern technology, automobiles, power plants etc. generate CO2.
> 4. The green house effect results in warming of the atmosphere which directly 
>effects climate.
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> Therefore, CO2 and man's actions contribute to climate change.
> 
> One can argue the degree of contribution but not whether the phenomenon 
exists.
> 
> 4. Fact: CO2 is not the only green house gas that is generated by man's 
>activities.
> 
> 5. Fact: sun spots don't contribute to ocean acidity.
> 6. Fact: There has been a significant change in ocean acidity in the last 150 
>years.
> 7  Fact: CO2 is the major contributor to ocean acidity.
> 8. Fact: There is already recognizable damage to coral reefs from ocean 
>acidity.
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> Ocean acidity is not far below the level that will result in dissolution of 
>reefs and prevent shell fish from forming shells.
> 
> So completely ignore climate change but don't plan to go scuba diving on reefs 
>or eat oysters in the future.
> 
> The potential impact goes far beyond what I've described.
> 
> Don't worry about that either because we can't afford to make the changes to 
>limit the problem and the full effect may not happen in our life time.
> 
> Let me get personal. My father-in-law will turn 100 next year. He has a 5 year 
>old grandson. This has caused me to rethink my attitude about many things. 
>Mostly, I make decisions which might affect people on a century scale not my 
>projected and somewhat limited life span.
> I worry about bankrupting my children, grandchildren and potential succeeding 
>generations with the national debt. So do a lot of people.
> The people who scream the most about the debt tend to be many of the climate 
>change deniers.
> 
> Because of the debt, my great grandchildren may not be able to afford food, 
>shelter or clothing, but I don't worry about this because the earth won't be 
>inhabitable anyway.
> 
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> ________________________________________
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] 
>On Behalf Of Mike Quastel [maay100 at bgu.ac.il]
> Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:13 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Climate Change a fraud?
> 
> I have been concerned to hear during the past year or so, even  from
> this otherwise informative and properly skeptical group, statements
> that findings of climate warming- or more properly climate change- is
> some sort of fraud, scam or conspiracy. The geologic and
> oceanographic evidence so far really does seem to support that
> climate change is taking place in our own lifetime. Whether it will
> turn out to be man made, a natural cycle, some sort of solar
> phenomenon, temporary or cumulative in the long run remains to be
> seen. There is nothing wrong with being skeptical -  indeed, that is
> the proper scientific approach -  but in view of the potentially very
> serious global consequences, it would be wise to keep an open mind on
> the subject and most definitely not rule out the possibility of human
> causation.
> 
> Mike Quastel
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