[ RadSafe ] Nonsense Claim: by Mangano: RE: 14, 000 US Deaths Linked to Radiation Leaks at Damaged Fukushima Nuclear Reactor in Japan

Ted de Castro tdc at xrayted.com
Tue Dec 20 14:08:36 CST 2011


The SI DOSE unit is RISK BASED by definition (look it up) - not physics 
based and are thus not measurable.  Also therefore to use the SI dose 
unit is to declare and define a risk - as small a number as you wish all 
the way down to zero.  That's LNTH and exceeds our actual understanding 
of what risks really are.

For CONVENIENCE and practicality we just take readings on a scale so 
annotated and/or move a decimal point - but this is a shortcut to try to 
actually use an unworkable unit.

becquerels are a physical unit,
Coulombs (rads in air) are also,
grays .... I'm not so sure,
BUT Sieverts ARE risk based by definition and not just rem with a 
decimal point moved - although that is how they are used in practice.  
But then back in the old days few people used RAD and REM correctly - 
even regulations were written using the wrong units.

On 12/20/2011 9:11 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) wrote:
> I understand and am sympathetic towards your criticism of Linear No
> Threshold, but I am unsure of how SI units are to blame.  While I still
> think in curies, I acknowledge becquerels are an easier to explain unit.
> Sieverts are just rem with the decimal place moved.  Same with grays and
> rads.
>
> I am not saying you are incorrect; I am just saying I don't understand
> what you are getting at.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ted de Castro
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:15 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Nonsense Claim: by Mangano: RE: 14, 000 US
> Deaths Linked to Radiation Leaks at Damaged Fukushima Nuclear Reactor in
> Japan
>
> You realize of course that this is here to stay and why?
>
> Two things:
>
> LNTH and
> SI units!
>
> SI units are proclaimed to be RISK BASED and are a linear units
> enumerated all the way down to 0.  So like 1984's Newspeak - SI units
> make it impossible to speak anything other than LNTH - thus making a
> hypothesis - law!
>
> It kinda hard of blame anyone for using the units as prescribed -
> ridiculous as it may be.
>
> On 12/19/2011 9:07 PM, Roger Helbig wrote:
>> The poster (author) of this piece's e-mail is britliggett[@]gmail
>> dot.com - her personal page is at http://www.britliggett.com/writing
>> and that links back to the article.  She seems to be someone with an
>> interest in Green things, no expertise in radiation and perhaps easily
>> baffled by Mangano's alleged academic credentials.  I am sure that she
>> has no idea of Mangano's past reputation for being a prominent
>> non-scientist.
>>
>> The publication was established by and I would seriously question them
>> about why this even appears here -  the writer has written pieces for
>> them in the past and has experience doing a video documentary of craft
>> beer production.
>>
>> Inhabitat was started by NYC designer Jill Fehrenbacher (Twitter
>> @JillFehr) as a forum for investigating emerging trends in product,
>> interior, and architectural design. Managing Editor Mike Chino and
>> Senior Editor Yuka Yoneda lead the editorial team
>>
>> Roger Helbig
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