[ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of CaliforniaRadiation Site

Thu Dec 22 14:59:54 CST 2011

Dear Group:

I am spurred to answer, but you seem to be beating a dead horse, and
trotting-out the same old manure!  I've had night-mares over this problem,
but you say neigh to my suggestion. You have been saddled with this for
decades - unbridled, I could make progress. The mane issue is merely a
shadow in the Mist. Franz, you are one of the few who understand when I
honestly say that the Mist was so thick, I must shovel it!  And no truer
words were every sung, but standing next to my horse to hear the strains of
that song, "I get Misty whenever you're near"... "And I feel like I'm
clinging to your mane, I cannot refrain, I get misty jut holding your
rein"...

Hay!  It could be worse.  Comment from dressage judge: "Airs above the
ground are best left to the Spanish Riding School"

Dan ii

P.S. Def. "Mist" - German == Horse manure
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Mercado, Donald
Paul. (ARC-QH)[CONSOLIDATED SAFETY SERVICES INC]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:44
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Gentlemen,

Please reign in your comments. We don't want to be saddled with these
decisions. I say neigh to any more these ass - i - nine comments or I'll be
forced to post more whithering protests! %^)

Donald Mercado, Health Physicist
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From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of ROY HERREN
[royherren2005 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:31 AM
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What do you suppose is the Mule's preferred operating system, Windows or
Apples?  Somehow I suspect that Mules work best on an Apple operating
system.

 Roy Herren

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From: "Rees, Brian G" <brees at lanl.gov>
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Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 11:02:57 AM
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So what is the contamination limit for a mule hide???
It behooves us to know...

That said, (and I'm sure there will be folks that will say it should have
been
unsaid!), there are films that show respirators on horses for Soviet
above-ground testing at the Semipalatinsk Test Site... the Chinese did the
same.  But no PC's. Could be an issue with overheating??

Brian Rees

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Glenn R. Marshall
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:37 AM
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Of course, a better photo would be of a mule wearing Tyvek.......

Glenn Marshall, CHP

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dan W McCarn
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:09 PM
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Cc: Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
Site

Great photo!

And a great reason to use an equine in difficult terrain.  I covered several
hundred kilometers in Northern Austria on my old horse, Boo, following
Chernobyl, scintillation counter in my saddlebags.  I learned a great deal
about
dry and wet deposition of radionuclides (R/Ns) and about how R/Ns coat the
leaves in the forest providing significantly more radiation than in grassy
fields or farmed land.  Altogether, a valuable experience.

I have a project in mind for one of my horses next spring riding fields in
the
San Luis Valley in Southern Colorado with a 3x3" NaI(Tl) crystal and
1024 channel spectrometer (if the sample rate is high enough, or the horse
is
slow enough).  I'll be collecting data with an ADC and GPS on a laptop.
The intent is to study radium deposition in soils proximal to a uranium
feature
(regional redox-controlled, roll-front).  Hopefully, this will inform my
soil-sampling plan. And, of course, I will be looking in detail at the
mineralogy of the soils involved...

I suspect that uranium / radium was redistributed from high-volume
irrigation
wells near the redox front over the last 100 years of irrigated farming.
And,
of course, I'll be looking to contract for 500 bales of good horse hay!

http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/te_1396_web.pdf
pp.289-315

Dan ii

--
Dan W McCarn, Geologist
108 Sherwood Blvd
Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
+1-505-672-2014 (Home - New Mexico)
+1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart Farber
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:03
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The procedure described isn't all that unusual. They're simply using a
modified
Geiger-muler [GM] detector.

Stewart Farber
SAFarber at optonline.net
www.farber-medical.com

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Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:17 AM
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Subject: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
Site

Sometimes you got to think outside the box!  Creative solution to a
difficult
situation.

http://www.westernmulemagazine.com/image/webimage/MULES%20CONTRIBUTE%20BY%20
GREGG%20DEMPSEY.pdf

Erik C. Nielsen
Health Physicist
USEPA, National Air and Radiation Environmental Laboratory
540 South Morris Ave.
Montgomery, AL 36115
Phone 334-270-3475
Fax 334-270-3454

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