[ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of CaliforniaRadiation Site

[Jeff Terry]

This thread shows that the egg nog must be flowing freely already. 

Happy Holidays, 

Jeff

On Dec 22, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Dan W McCarn wrote:

> Dear Group:
> 
> I am spurred to answer, but you seem to be beating a dead horse, and
> trotting-out the same old manure!  I've had night-mares over this problem,
> but you say neigh to my suggestion. You have been saddled with this for
> decades - unbridled, I could make progress. The mane issue is merely a
> shadow in the Mist. Franz, you are one of the few who understand when I
> honestly say that the Mist was so thick, I must shovel it!  And no truer
> words were every sung, but standing next to my horse to hear the strains of
> that song, "I get Misty whenever you're near"... "And I feel like I'm
> clinging to your mane, I cannot refrain, I get misty jut holding your
> rein"...
> 
> Hay!  It could be worse.  Comment from dressage judge: "Airs above the
> ground are best left to the Spanish Riding School"
> 
> Dan ii
> 
> P.S. Def. "Mist" - German == Horse manure
> --
> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Mercado, Donald
> Paul. (ARC-QH)[CONSOLIDATED SAFETY SERVICES INC]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 12:44
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of CaliforniaRadiation
> Site
> 
> Gentlemen,
> 
> Please reign in your comments. We don't want to be saddled with these
> decisions. I say neigh to any more these ass - i - nine comments or I'll be
> forced to post more whithering protests! %^)
> 
> Donald Mercado, Health Physicist
> ________________________________________
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of ROY HERREN
> [royherren2005 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 11:31 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> What do you suppose is the Mule's preferred operating system, Windows or
> Apples?  Somehow I suspect that Mules work best on an Apple operating
> system.
> 
> Roy Herren
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "Rees, Brian G" <brees at lanl.gov>
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Sent: Thu, December 22, 2011 11:02:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> So what is the contamination limit for a mule hide???
> It behooves us to know...
> 
> That said, (and I'm sure there will be folks that will say it should have
> been
> unsaid!), there are films that show respirators on horses for Soviet
> above-ground testing at the Semipalatinsk Test Site... the Chinese did the
> same.  But no PC's. Could be an issue with overheating??
> 
> 
> Brian Rees
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Glenn R. Marshall
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 10:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> Of course, a better photo would be of a mule wearing Tyvek.......
> 
> Glenn Marshall, CHP
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dan W McCarn
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 11:09 PM
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList'
> Cc: Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> Great photo!
> 
> And a great reason to use an equine in difficult terrain.  I covered several
> hundred kilometers in Northern Austria on my old horse, Boo, following
> Chernobyl, scintillation counter in my saddlebags.  I learned a great deal
> about
> dry and wet deposition of radionuclides (R/Ns) and about how R/Ns coat the
> leaves in the forest providing significantly more radiation than in grassy
> fields or farmed land.  Altogether, a valuable experience.
> 
> I have a project in mind for one of my horses next spring riding fields in
> the
> San Luis Valley in Southern Colorado with a 3x3" NaI(Tl) crystal and
> 1024 channel spectrometer (if the sample rate is high enough, or the horse
> is
> slow enough).  I'll be collecting data with an ADC and GPS on a laptop.
> The intent is to study radium deposition in soils proximal to a uranium
> feature
> (regional redox-controlled, roll-front).  Hopefully, this will inform my
> soil-sampling plan. And, of course, I will be looking in detail at the
> mineralogy of the soils involved...
> 
> I suspect that uranium / radium was redistributed from high-volume
> irrigation
> wells near the redox front over the last 100 years of irrigated farming.
> And,
> of course, I'll be looking to contract for 500 bales of good horse hay!
> 
> http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/te_1396_web.pdf
> pp.289-315
> 
> Dan ii
> 
> --
> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
> 108 Sherwood Blvd
> Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
> +1-505-672-2014 (Home - New Mexico)
> +1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
> HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Stewart Farber
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 08:03
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> The procedure described isn't all that unusual. They're simply using a
> modified
> Geiger-muler [GM] detector.
> 
> 
> Stewart Farber
> SAFarber at optonline.net
> www.farber-medical.com
> 
> 
> =============
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> Nielsen.Erik at epamail.epa.gov
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:17 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Mules Contribute to Cleanup of California Radiation
> Site
> 
> Sometimes you got to think outside the box!  Creative solution to a
> difficult
> situation.
> 
> http://www.westernmulemagazine.com/image/webimage/MULES%20CONTRIBUTE%20BY%20
> GREGG%20DEMPSEY.pdf
> 
> Erik C. Nielsen
> Health Physicist
> USEPA, National Air and Radiation Environmental Laboratory
> 540 South Morris Ave.
> Montgomery, AL 36115
> Phone 334-270-3475
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