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emails were leaked from the Climate Research Unit of the University of
East Anglia in England, showed that certain senior members of the
research community were, and presumably still are, quite capable of
deliberately selecting data in order to overstate the evidence for
dangerous climate change."

A companion sentence could easily be, "The Climategate scandal of 2009,
wherein thousands of emails were leaked from the Climate Research Unit
of the University of East Anglia in England, showed that certain senior
members of the Climate Change Doubter Community were, and presumably
still are, quite capable of deliberately selecting data in order to
overstate the evidence for dangerous climate change conspiracy." =20

Much of Climategate has been shown to be produced by presenting emails
out of context, to support a different agenda.

Regardless of whether man-made CO2 is a climate issue, there are several
thing that are not in dispute:

1) Throwing crap up into the air is bad.  Almost any form of burning
throws crap up into the air.  It has little effect when there is only a
little, and larger effect when there is a lot. =20
2) Deforestation is bad.  Whether you believe forest remove a
significant amount of CO2 or not really doesn't matter, at their effects
on the water cycle, flooding, erosion, and a number of other areas are
clear.
3) Transporting energy long distances is bad.  Whether it is coal, oil,
refined oil products, or electricity (regardless of source), the farther
you have to transport it, the more energy it takes, and the smaller
return on investment you get (anyone who wishes to argue that small
return on investment is good is welcome to it).  Things that reduce
energy needs by improving efficiency, and things that produce energy
closer to the load are almost always good economic payoffs, and usually
address other issues, too. =20

Even if you don't believe in climate change, you ought to believe in
economics.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Maury
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 7:26 AM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Climate science & nuclear sciences

Radiation safety is intimately dependent upon Science and is heavily=20
related to the climate sciences because science and engineering are the=20
most likely means for promoting the acceptability and safe applications=20
of ionizing radiation for benefits to mankind (and probably also to=20
armadillos). This essay (click on link below) by Paltridge affords one=20
of the best perspectives on Science and Climate that I've ever seen.

I hope many of you will find it equally so.

Best,
Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel  maurysis at peoplepc.com]

http://afr.com/p/lifestyle/review/science_held_hostage_in_climate_Uamwgc
7zXEsU6RbQJ5MWIJ

Science held hostage in climate debate    By  Garth Paltridge
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