[ RadSafe ] Gurke?Nein danke
royherren2005 at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 1 19:11:59 CDT 2011
In the US the term that is used for the growing process that doesn't use
chemical fertilizers and pesticides is "organic". Is the term that you have
used, i.e. "biologically" intended to imply that the cucumbers have been grown
without chemical fertilizers and pesticides?
In the US the big Escherichia coli, or as we write it "E. coli", outbreaks
have been related either to cow or pig excreta. The fundamental causes of the
problem when it was related to beef production was most probable related to the
butchering process, mixing of unbelievable large quantities of meat from many
different animals, and improper food handling in that the hamburgers weren't
cooked to a sufficient temperature. The cause of the pig excreta problem is
believed to have been traced to wild or feral pigs getting into spinach fields,
and the spinach being consumed raw in salads.
When I was growing up my European ancestry family never ever ate raw
spinach. My mother always boiled spinach and then put vinegar into the
spinach. I don't think any live E. coli bacterium could possible survive
boiling and vinegar.
Could the German E. coli outbreak be related to commercial food production
of beef tartare ( Tatarbeefsteak) (raw beef)?
From: "franz.schoenhofer at chello.at" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
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Sent: Wed, June 1, 2011 3:36:13 AM
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Gurke?Nein danke
To all RADSAFErs who do not speak either German or Swedish:
"Gurke? Nein danke!" is German and means "Cucumber? No thank you!" This sentence
is really brilliant because it refers to stickers and buttons spread everywhere
in Europe (in different languages) in the seventies and eighties saying "Nuclear
power? No thank you!".
The background is the following: Since the Fukushima events cannot raise any
more the adrenalin level of consumers of mass media there had to be a new
enhancer found. This is now the "Spanish cucumber". They were without any known
facts made responsible for containing certain bacteria, which can be deadly for
weak persons and actually there were cases of death in Northern Germany The
authorities have tested now two or three cucumbers (what an excellent
statistic!) and found some Escherichia colii of course, but not the dangerous
variation! Now the average people are afraid of consuming not only vegetables
from Spain, but from everywhere and the industry is suffering terrible losses.
According to newspapers the consumption of vegetables has gone down in Austria
by 78 %. BTW the Spanish vegetables have been declared to have been grown "
biologically". This part of the industry (yes it is in fact an industry!)
suffers even higher losses. I found in one Austrian newspaper the ter
m "Killer Cucumber".
Looking at the behaviour of people I have certain suspicions on the value of
"democracy" - one person, one vote.
Hope this helps to understand the background.
---- Bjorn Cedervall <bcradsafers at hotmail.com> schrieb:
> This button was created last night?
> No one seems to have died from acute radiation effects following the Fukushima
> 14 people (?) this far have died from the cucumbers...
> Note that you can vote on the button if you wish to do so.
> My personal initiative only,
> Bjorn Cedervall bcradsafers at hotmail.com
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