[ RadSafe ] Busby: chemist or physicist?
sperle at mirion.com
Mon May 2 09:43:03 CDT 2011
Let me say that I agree 100% with Franz. Titles may be important in receiving a grant, but is not a sole criteria to determine one's ability to address a subject. I know many qualified individuals that don't even have. College degree. But they know their business,
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On May 2, 2011, at 10:36 AM, "Franz Schönhofer" <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> Steven, Roger, Chris and all others engaged on RADSAFE in the recent debate
> on PhD degrees in different fields!!!
> May I try to get some sense into this debate? First of all I voluntarily
> confess that I am a chemist by education - please continue reading! The
> education at the University of Vienna was extremely hard, partly because it
> comprised a lot of compulsary physics lectures and practica, not to talk
> about physical chemistry with all the thermodynamics up to Schroedinger
> equation. I voluntarily attented - together with many of my collegues -
> lectures on radioactivity and radiochemistry held by Prof. Broda, well known
> in Austria, but most likely not in the USA and the same is true for lectures
> by Prof. Schoenfeld, who brought to our knowledge then the really
> sensational new techniques of chromatography, ion exchange and radiochemical
> techniques. My PhD thesis was a combination of radioanaltytical chemistry
> using a physical phenomenon called electrophoresis. After that I worked in
> radiochemical analysis, gamma-spectrometry, Liquid Scintillation
> Spectrometry, Emergency Planning (before Chernobyl), Radioecology (past
> Chernobyl), radon, NORM, etc. etc. etc.
> Now please tell me, what kind of expert I am - or you may also answer that I
> know a little about everything, but nothing about something.... A good old
> I actually do not know the education system in the USA. The system in Europe
> and Austria has been changed dramatically since I studied - not to the
> better. It seems that the interchange between different topics like in this
> discussions between chemistry and physics (statistics, epidemiology....) has
> become almost non existent - otherwise I cannot understand these fierce
> Another sad topic is of course the discussion about titles.
> I always had the impression, that titles are not so important in the USA. I
> might have been a dozen times or more in the USA and know dozens of US
> scientists personally, but I usually do not know their titles. This was once
> very important in some parts of Europe, but I never really knew, what
> academic titles my friends in Scandinavia held. Even in Germany adressing
> one another with the academic title is outdated among scientists.
> What is the discussion about PhD titles good for? I know many persons
> without such a title, whom I believe to be excellent scientists. Mostly they
> are found in the USA, but this includes in my home country such, who had not
> the financial opportunity to finish their studies, but still do excellent
> I hope I could calm down this not always reasonable discussion.
> Best regards,
> Franz Schoenhofer, PhD
> MinRat i.R.
> Habicherg. 31/7
> A-1160 Wien/Vienna
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Steven Dapra
> Gesendet: Montag, 02. Mai 2011 05:10
> An: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Betreff: Re: [ RadSafe ] Busby: chemist or physicist?
> May 1
> Okay, Mr. CHEMICAL physicist. Besides, I did not call you a
> physicist. The infowars.com web site that was fawning and simpering
> over you called you a "physicist." Why don't you register a
> complaint with your sycophants? By the way, how do you know there is
> "a rage" in all those residents of Tokyo? Have you interviewed any of them?
> You are not a nuclear physicist, nor are you an
> epidemiologist, hence when you are spewing about power reactors and
> epidemiology you are outside of your field, so big deal.
> I think it's safe to assume that you are implying that
> Fukushima will cause an *additional* 800,000 cancers. That claim is
> a fraud and a hoax. But just to be reasonable about it, let's see
> your "calculations," assuming that you can find the envelope upon
> whose back you made them.
> Steven Dapra
> At 01:06 PM 5/1/2011, you wrote:
>> My PhD is in Chemical PHYSICS
>> Thank you
>> Chris Busby
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
>> Sent: Sat 30/04/2011 05:05
>> To: radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Busby: chemist or physicist?
>> April 29
>> According to this hysterical and fear-mongering article, Chris
>> is a physicist. Here's the quote:
>> "Dr. Chris Busby, another physicist says there is a rage in the
>> people in Tokyo and he now predicts based on his calculations that
>> 800,000 people out of about 8 million who live within 200 kilomters
>> [sic] of the plant will contract cancer if they are not moved out."
>> Here's the link:
>> Based on the size of the scroll bar it looks like a long
>> article. Over three fourths of it is comments from readers. (The
>> article is about 2400 words long.)
>> Steven Dapra
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