[ RadSafe ] Support Radon Mine but mention "kill" scientist make nosense, help!

[John R Johnson]

Mike

I have never heard of  "radon mines", but only radon in mines.

John
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brennan, Mike (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Support Radon Mine but mention "kill" scientist 
make nosense, help!


>I don't recall any general "support" of radon mines; I think the attitude 
>is more one of dismissal as quackery.  Nor do I recall anyone advocating 
>that Helen Caldicott (who is not, by the way, in any way a scientist) be 
>"killed".  Indeed, I believe the overwhelming consensus is that she is a 
>quack, though likely more harmful to mankind's overall health than radon 
>mines.
>
> Mr. Sato, you are obviously not a native English speaker, so I will accept 
> that you are not familiar with our culture.  If you take the time to learn 
> about our culture, it might save you embarrassment in front of the people 
> you wish to converse with.  The subject line and first paragraph of your 
> post are an attempt to place words in the mouths of others; to make it 
> appear that they are taking an unreasonable position.  It is not even a 
> very good attempt.  That you would try something this intellectually 
> dishonest, and be so poor at it, causes you to lose a great deal of face 
> in front of the people you are taking too.  Indeed, you have already lost 
> so much face that most people on radsafe are embarrassed to be seen 
> conversing with you, as they are concerned that your incorrect behavior 
> will reflect badly on them.  They are mindful of the saying, "don't 
> wrestle with a pig; you will get dirty, and the pig will enjoy it more 
> than you will".
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Support Radon Mine but mention "kill" scientist make 
> nosense, help!
>
> Support radon mine but "kill" scientist Helen Caldicott make for no sense!
> Please help to understand. Make no sense of what so ever. Explain please!
> What to is this "Radsafe"? Seem no concern for "safe" ! At all. WHY named
> then "safe"?
> Radon science say dangerous and Caldicott try to help safety.
>
> Please see comments these made here;
> _http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032089.html_
> (http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032089.html)
> _http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032106.html_
> (http://health.phys.iit.edu/archives/2011-May/032106.html)
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