[ RadSafe ] The human sex odds at birth after theatmosphericatomic bomb tests, after Chernobyl, and in the vicinity of nuclear facilities

Fri May 27 15:23:28 CDT 2011

OMG.......
Busby wrote:
" But the ECRR and the ICRP have exactly the same status"......

That is what I would call an "interesting" perspective!

Of course it is an "Advisory body". And, as they state on their website:
<< 
ICRP is an independent, international organisation with more than two
hundred volunteer members from approximately thirty countries across six
continents. These members represent the leading scientists and policy makers
in the field of radiological protection.

ICRP is funded through a number of ongoing contributions from organisations
with an interest in radiological protection.>>

And governments are free to take their advice, or not.

As they are free to take the advice of any "reputable" organization that can
offer intelligent advice, based on sound research by recognized experts.

Fortunately, persons with specific agendas who form "commissions" and who
have little real science to back their claims will likely not be considered
as "reputable" and their advice not taken by many other than those with
similar skewed perspecives.

Regards
Doug 

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-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Busby Chris
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:00 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List;
The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The human sex odds at birth after
theatmosphericatomic bomb tests, after Chernobyl, and in the vicinity of
nuclear facilities

But the ECRR and the ICRP have exactly the same status. Can it be that you
guys dont know this?
They are both supposed to be independent.
But just ask ICRP who funds it. 
It wont tell you.
ICRP has no official status. This is what its secretary Jack Valentin told
us at a meeting in the European Parliament in 1997. He said, the European
Parliament is free to consult any organisation for its advice.

I still havent had any sensible explanation of the infant leukemias.
Sincerely

Chris 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Ted de Castro
Sent: Fri 27/05/2011 18:45
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The human sex odds at birth after
theatmosphericatomic bomb tests, after Chernobyl, and in the vicinity of
nuclear facilities

Thanks Franz for the contextual insight/clarification/perspective on the
appellation "commission".

On 5/27/2011 9:34 AM, franz.schoenhofer at chello.at wrote:
> Given the fact that ECRR is bogus - "European Commission" is something 
> else and a regulatory body within the European Community contrary to 
> your (Busby) private "company".  Eerything distributed by you on 
> behalf of ECCR is automatically bogus and financed by some green 
> groups, radical antinuclear groups like this international financial 
> enterprise "Greenpeace" and others you might be surprised or not that 
> your message is not taken serious. Since RADSAFE has unfortunately 
> become almost a US-alone newsgroup you might find a willing audience, 
> which takes you serious - we in Europe know, what we have to think of 
> you and your fellow "experts" like this unbelievable expert 
> "Schmitz-Feuerhake", on whose name, when mentioned among European 
> radiation protection professionals causes a laugh - she is really 
> ridiculous, has been removed as a presentator from conferences, 
> especially since her "coauthors" refused to be named together with 
> her, because they did not share her opinions. She
  i
>   s like Chris Busby a member of those "commissions", "Societies",
"Institutes", which do not have any legal status, but use these labels only
to give their agenda a credibility and to enhance donations. How dispisable!
>
> There is more material for the future!
>
> Best regards,
>
> Franz
>
> ---- Busby Chris<C.Busby at ulster.aaaac.uk>  schrieb:
>> an ECRR member
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Brennan, Mike  
>> (DOH)
>> Sent: Thu 26/05/2011 22:13
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) 
>> MailingList
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] The human sex odds at birth after the 
>> atmosphericatomic bomb tests, after Chernobyl,and in the vicinity of 
>> nuclear facilities
>>
>>  From the Medical Express article: " Their analyses show a 
>> significant gender gap in all three cases:"
>>
>> I think "show" might be an overstatement.  "Suggests", or "implies"
>> might be better.  There are a lot of ways of drawing lines through 
>> the points on the graphs, and coloration does not prove causality.
>>
>> Given the small changes in the ratios (1.055 to 1.047 male/female 
>> range in the US, for example), there are a lot of confounding factors 
>> I would want to see dealt with.  For example, it wouldn't take many 
>> abortions for sex selection to mess up the numbers (NOTE: I am not 
>> saying that is what happened, just using it as an example).
>>
>> This strikes me as a particularly easy thing to test with animal 
>> models, though I know that is more expensive than searching 
>> databases.  But I think I would want to see some animal testing and 
>> perhaps a model as to the mechanics of how it happens before I got too
excited.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Doug 
>> Huffman
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 1:48 PM
>> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] The human sex odds at birth after the 
>> atmospheric atomic bomb tests, after Chernobyl, and in the vicinity 
>> of nuclear facilities
>>
>> http://www.springerlink.com/content/w822527526045772/
>>
>> http://www.springerlink.com/content/w822527526045772/fulltext.pdf  
>> free I think
>>
>> Popularized review
>>
>> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-05-nuclear-affects-baby-gender.htm
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