[ RadSafe ] Germany to shut down reactors by 2022

Tue May 31 21:58:26 CDT 2011

Franz has a point. Howard Macabee PhD MD, radiation oncologist and (like myself) a director of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness, presents a study showing deaths more in cold months than hot months in 10? countries. Viva global warming!
Howard Long

On May 31, 2011, at 11:27 AM, <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:

> Dear Brian,
> 
> I do not remember all the details of the heat wave you refer to, but what I remember is the following: People who died in France were very old ones who had been neglected by their caregivers. They simply died of thirst, because very old people do not drink enough without being "forced" to. This extremely hot summer caused a lack of water in rivers, many powerplants (also conventional ones like in Italy) had to be shut down, because there was to little water for cooling available. Latest since Fukushima we know how important cooling water is! 
> 
> Lack of electricity sure was not the cause, those old poor people not having any airconditioning. (I do not have any either).  There were no similar reports from Spain, Greece or Southern Italy though you can believe me that it will every summer get there really hot, easily comparable to Southern Arizona.
> 
> I respect your own personal (American) opinion, but it would have been perfect if you had called it "US American" opinion.... Hope you do not mind this little joke!
> 
> Best wishes!
> 
> Franz
> 
> 
> 
> deaths in France a few years back attributed to heat-related conditions brought about electricity shortages because the wind quit blowing during the heat waves?  
>> 
>> Darwin has good points! 
>> 
>> (Obviously) my own personal (American) opinion...
>> 
>> Brian Rees  
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu>
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>> Sent: Mon May 30 19:49:54 2011
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Germany to shut down reactors by 2022
>> 
>> Is German arrogance so great (super race) that it, with ethnocentrism like lemmings, will go over the cliff of energy deprivation - when nuclear electricity is provided at just 2 cents per KWH at Palo Verdes, with NO deaths or injuries (unlike other sources)?
>> This German action reminds me of USA climate change and LDradiation scaremongers.
>> Howard.Long
>> 
>> On May 30, 2011, at 2:40 PM, Marvin Resnikoff <radwaste at rwma.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is the nature of a democracy.  Decisions are made by the voters, not by the scientists.
>>> Marvin Resnikoff
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 5/30/11, Perle, Sandy <sperle at mirion.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Perle, Sandy <sperle at mirion.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Germany to shut down reactors by 2022
>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing  List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Date: Monday, May 30, 2011, 4:03 PM
>>> 
>>> Steve,
>>> 
>>> Amen! Many years ago at a utility I worked at there was a sign in the Control Room that depicted the feelings about intervenor efforts to shut the 2 units down, that simply read. Let the bastards freeze in the dark. This was true over 30 years ago and just as true today.
>>> 
>>> Going to be cold winters and hot summers in all these Countries due to inexcusable decisions made by their governments.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sandy
>>> Sent from my Windows phone from AT&T
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Steven Dapra <sjd at swcp.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 3:55 PM
>>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List <radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Germany to shut down reactors by 2022
>>> 
>>> 
>>> May 30
>>> 
>>>         The Germans are signing themselves up for a heap of (cold) trouble.
>>> 
>>> Steven Dapra
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 10:24 AM 5/30/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Dear Steven & Group:
>>>> 
>>>> The sad truth is that the energy will come to Germany in the form of Russian
>>>> natural gas controlled by Gasprom.  Three years ago, Gasprom turned-off the
>>>> gas to Europe on 1 January 2009 claiming that Ukraine was "stealing gas"
>>>> leaving it off for several weeks.  Since so much of Eastern Europe is very
>>>> dependent on Russia for energy, this single "statement" caused major
>>>> disruptions (and geopolitical changes) in Eastern and Central Europe
>>>> including Germany.  The price of gas spiked, and old company joint projects
>>>> were re-evaluated to include Russian companies.
>>>> 
>>>> This also happened in 2006 with Ukraine said to be stealing gas, and Belarus
>>>> in earlier "gas-stealing" events.  Gasprom always finds excuses to shut gas
>>>> off, and they appear to be a major arm of the Russian government's
>>>> heavy-handed foreign policy. 10% of Russian GDP comes from Gasprom.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan ii
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Steven Dapra
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 21:55
>>>> To: radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu
>>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Germany to shut down reactors by 2022
>>>> 
>>>> May 29
>>>> 
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110530/wl_afp/germanypoliticsnuclear
>>>> 
>>>>         How will Germany replace the 22 percent of electricity it receives
>>>> from reactors?
>>>> 
>>>> Steven Dapra
>>> 
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