[ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between scienceandpseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)

Demetrios Okkalides od at tlmq.com
Wed Oct 5 16:01:37 CDT 2011

I quite agree that such misconceptions  can happen and things can get lost 
in traslation or things can be misinterpretted. However, all of these can 
happen to important stuff such as the healing of the blind (may be he was 
not quite blind) and the walking on water (may be it was very shallow) and 
the resurrection itself (it may never actually happened). Then what is left 
from christianity? On the other hand, science can demostrate by experiment 
much of its corpus. This is quite different.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Gerald Center, Jr" <john.center at wmich.edu>
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between scienceandpseudo-science. 
(was Rational Thought)

> The Bible also says that God's word could be manipulated.  Time and usage 
> changes some word meanings.  "Fear God" is common now and has meanings to 
> us that I don't believe was the intentional meaning.  Historically, the 
> original language was meant to convey something along the lines of to 
> "hold in awe". When I hear "Rad", I immediately think one thing, but on a 
> California beach, someone yelling "rad" has a whole other meaning.
> Also, the Bible was not written by God, it was written by fallible men 
> inspired by God.  And, the New Testament was decided on by committee. 
> There were several Gospels left out because they did not fit in with the 
> purposes of the committee.  And, look at the four Gospels that were kept. 
> They tell basically the same story except the farther in time the get from 
> Jesus' actual time on earth, the more despicable Judas becomes.  I fear 
> some things may have been lost in translation and/or misinterpretted due 
> to time.  Originally, an Old Testament "day" could be representative of a 
> millennium.  And later, when people were living "900 years", years could 
> be entirely different from our concept of a year.  For us, a year is one 
> revolution around the sun.  And this is a relatively new concept from a 
> historical perspective.
> In Christ,
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Demetrios Okkalides" <od at tlmq.com>
>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList" 
>> <radsafe at agni.phys.iit.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 3:38:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drawing the line between science 
>> andpseudo-science. (was Rational Thought)
>> Dear Howard,
>> I think it matters because that is what it is stated in the bible. I
>> think
>> that the real question is: "Is the bible the written word of god?" If
>> someone thinks it is, then it should be taken at face value and there
>> should
>> not be anything mistaken in it, never. Not 1000 years ago, nor 1000
>> years
>> from now. Nothing mistaken in its morals, nothing mistaken in its
>> history,
>> nothing mistaken in its physics, nothing mistaken in its engineering.
>> There
>> should be any need for explanations, interpretations and
>> disabmiguations.
>> For if one phrase is evidently mistaken then more may also be
>> mistaken.
>> Demetrios Okkalides
>> THEAGENEION Anticancer Hospital
>> Thessaloniki
>> Greece
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