[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3; The End
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Sun Oct 9 17:28:39 CDT 2011
Franz:
I'm afraid we trying to communicate with someone who has his own agenda.
Incidentally your English is far better than my German.
Ed Baratta
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-----Original Message-----
From: franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2011 1:16 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List ;
The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
Cc: Busby, Chris
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3; The End
Chris,
Do I understand as a non-native speaker correctly, that you intend not to
bother us in the future with your anti-nuclear, anti-radioactivity bla-bla,
which lacks any scientfic background, but pretends to have one?
Thank you for including me in the list of most dispicable persons on
RADSAFE. I am proud of it!
No regards to you,
Franz
---- "Busby schrieb:
> Im, sorry, I dont want to respond to you any more, Steven, this is
> probably my last post directly on your questions and statements.
> Following your remark about the resurrection of Jesus, and your belief in
> Creation, your credibility is bankrupt. You clearly either havent read the
> Fallujah uranium paper or else you are just picking away as usual and
> wasting my time. There is nothing I could write that would not just raise
> some other question and a lot of ignorant cheers from the sidelines. My
> assumption that this is a discussion group is mistaken when it comes to
> you, Helbig and Franz Schoenhofer. It is a bear baiting arena. I have
> wasted enough time on you all. At times it has been entertaining, but
> enough is enough.
> There are some good honest wrong and misguided people on this Radsafe, and
> some useful exchanges, but I have made most of the points I wanted to
> make. If anyone is interested in my ideas or work, I will still keep an
> eye on the posts, and can be contacted directly.
>
> With my very best regards,
>
> Chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
> Sent: Sun 09/10/2011 00:25
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
>
> Oct. 8
>
> There was no control group for exposure to DU or for
> exposure to anything else.
>
> Steven Dapra
>
>
> At 03:49 AM 10/8/2011, you wrote:
> >Not DU
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Steven Dapra
> >Sent: Sat 08/10/2011 04:47
> >To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> >
> >Oct. 7
> >
> > This study was based on hair samples from 25 exposed parents
> >and two of their children. Note also that it is a self-selected
> >(volunteer) study.
> >
> > Quoting from the study:
> >
> > "Parents of children born in 2009-2010 with major congenital
> >anomalies in Fallujah General Hospital volunteered to take part in
> >the study. Mothers and fathers separately gave hair samples in May
> >2010 and also completed a questionnaire. Details from the
> >questionnaire were filed with the clinical details of the child's
> >congenital anomaly. In two cases, hair from the child was also
> >obtained. We obtained the clinical details of the congenital anomaly,
> >the age of the parents, their smoking history and alcohol drinking
> >history and where they had lived. All of the parents were from
> >Fallujah and had been present at the time of and after the attacks in
> >2004."
> >
> > There was no control group of Iraqis who were not exposed to
> >DU. Some of the comparisons in the study are to residents of Sweden.
> >
> > Busby said the study "took almost a year to get through peer
> >review." It was received on Feb. 5, 2011, and accepted on Sept. 2,
> >2011. This is seven months --- not what I would call "almost a year."
> >
> >Steven Dapra
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:47 AM 10/7/2011, you wrote:
> > >Yes
> > >
> > >The study is here:
> > >
> > >Research
> > >Open Access Highly Accessed
> > >
> > > Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of
> > > children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq
> > >
> > >Samira Alaani, Muhammed Tafash, Christopher Busby, Malak Hamdan and
> > >Eleonore Blaurock-Busch Conflict and Health 2011, 5:15 (2 September
> > >2011)
> > >
> > >http://www.conflictandhealth.com/content/5/1/15
> > >
> > >Please apologize
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Dan W McCarn
> > >Sent: Thu 06/10/2011 19:45
> > >To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
> > >MailingList'
> > >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> > >
> > >Dear Chris Busby:
> > >
> > >You wrote, "I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive
> > >study of
> > >uranium in Fallujah."
> > >
> > >Just a couple of questions... Did you ever have boots on the ground in
> > >Fallujah? Did you design and conduct the sampling program? And where
> > >was
> > >this "study" published?
> > >
> > >No, I really don't want to hear the answer to that because you have
> > >impeached yourself too many times. But I wish that you would not try
> > >to
> > >dominate this list.
> > >
> > >Years ago, in preparation for expert testimony, I was advised to never
> > >describe something as "complicated" or "complex" and to especially
> > >avoid the
> > >word, "expensive" because those words fall on deaf ears in a courtroom.
> > >
> > >I have become deaf to your words.
> > >
> > >Dan ii
> > >
> > >--
> > >Dan W McCarn, Geologist
> > >108 Sherwood Blvd
> > >Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
> > >+1-505-672-2014 (Home - New Mexico)
> > >+1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
> > >HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > >[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Busby, Chris
> > >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 11:40
> > >To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
> > >List
> > >Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
> > >
> > >I agree about peer review and dont rely on it, nor do I say that my own
> > >peer
> > >review articles are any more believable as a result of peer review. Its
> > >it
> > >is just that others demand this as some kind of requirement before they
> > >even
> > >read it. I have been contacted by many people in Japan giving symptoms
> > >that
> > >suggest the same scenario as Bandashevsky found. I figured out that it
> > >was
> > >mechanistically plausible, and this made me realise that i could save
> > >lives.
> > >Hence Youtube. I recently did an enormously complicated and expensive
> > >study
> > >of uranium in Fallujah. It took almost a year to get through peer
> > >review.
> > >Its now published. In that time, a lot of children could have been
> > >saved.
> > >Scientists like anyone have a duty to warn the public of what they have
> > >found if that can possible save lives.It would, in my opinion and
> > >belief,
> > >have been irresponsible NOT to say something to everyone.
> > >Cheers
> > >Chris
> >
> >[edit]
>
>
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