[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 769, Issue 1

Tue Oct 11 13:12:52 CDT 2011

So, what is the uranium carrying capacity of a single human sperm?  And
how much uranium does the father have to have in his system in order for
every sperm he generates over a (fill in the blank) number of years has
that amount?

If you are going to claim that Gulf War vets father children with a
significant increase in congenital anomalies, that's one thing.  It can
be shown with statistics, and assuming your data is of high quality and
your analysis unbiased (two assumptions that, alas, I don't think can be
accepted out of hand), the numbers can speak for themselves.  On the
other hand, if you say, or even imply (as you clearly are doing here)
that uranium is the cause, then you need to show that you have excluded
all other possibilities (close to impossible) or that you have a
convincing mechanism that deals with all objections.  I don't think you
are even close to that.

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Busby, Chris
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Dear Tony Harrison MSPH

It is a difference in Uranium content (and Uranium isotopes) in hair
between Sweden and Fallujah. 
It has nothing to do with pre and ante natal care in Sweden and
Fallujah.
Why would you imagine Uranium in hair has anything to do with pre and
ante natal care in Sweden? What is your logic??????????

If you are saying that the levels of Congenital anomalies are higher in
Iraq than in Sweden becasue of pre/ante natal care you are wrong. We
disposed of that one in a previous paper where we compared with Egypt,
Jordan and Kuwait and indeed in this one were we draw attemntion to the
significant increase in congenital anomalies in the children of Gulf War
veterans.

The reason there were no controls for births without congenital
anomalies is that everyone was contaminated. The controls were Sweden,
Israel, other countries where U was measured in hair. Check the paper.

Buit what none of you have commented on is the fact that we measured
ENRICHED Uranium.

Cheers
Chris 

-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Harrison, Tony
Sent: Tue 11/10/2011 15:15
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 769, Issue 1

Had he picked controls from Fallujah who DID NOT have babies with
abnormalities, he could have made a nice case/control study out of it.
It's not likely that he'd have seen an effect from uranium, so I guess
that explains why he didn't do that.

I think he's mostly comparing the quality of pre-natal care in Sweden to
that in Iraq.  Significant difference!  I'm shocked!

Tony Harrison, MSPH
Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment
Laboratory Services Division
303-692-3046

Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2011 10:02:52 -0700
From: "Otto G. Raabe" <ograabe at ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 764, Issue 3
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At 12:47 AM 10/7/2011, Busby, Chris wrote:
>     Uranium and other contaminants in hair from the parents of 
> children with congenital anomalies in Fallujah, Iraq
>Samira Alaani, Muhammed Tafash, Christopher Busby, Malak Hamdan and 
>Eleonore Blaurock-Busch Conflict and Health 2011, 5:15 (2 September
2011)
>http://www.conflictandhealth.com/content/5/1/15
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The chemical analysis in this study may be okay, but the logic 
surrounding the so-called effects in this paper is fatally flawed. 
Traces of uranium are in food and water, and everybody has some 
uranium in the body. However, it is one of the least toxic of the 
heavy metals.

It. is not surprising that there may be significant differences in 
traces of uranium in people who live in different parts of world.

Guilt by selective association is not science. I do not believe that 
this paper could ever be accepted by any major epidemiology journal.

In one of the classes that taught at UCD I had the students read 
"Deadly Deceit" by Jay Gould and Benjamin Goldman (1990) so that 
could recognize the faulty one-dimensional logic of the dedicated 
anti-nuclear activists such as Busby.

Otto

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