[ RadSafe ] "mis-information from both TEPCO and the Japanesegovernment immediately after the incident"

Wed Oct 12 11:23:59 CDT 2011

RADSAFErs,

What a surprise! His scientific highness, the ultimate and universal genius in radioactivity matters, who had promised only recently to save us from further contributions has decided to open his box of wisdom again and pour his wisdom over us poor dumb and unknowledgable creatures! 

So what??? The statements of the IAEA concern you? They concern you, because they were not identical with some other measurements? What a surprise - we measured after the Chernobyl accident Cs137 concentrations within a few meters differing  up to a factor of ten. Shouldn't you, as the universal genius, be aware of those effects? Did you probably take you funny carfilters as a reference? 

Furtheron you claim, that surface contamination can be directly calculated into doses. You once told me on RADSAFE, that I should go  back to school to learn about radioactiviy. What should I recommend for you? To think of the difference for alpha, beta, and gammaradiation? Ever heard of it? Ever heard about the difference between external and internal radiation? Who are "those of us"? Greenpeace, you and the like? You better stop to reclaim yourself into the circle of radiation scientists. 

Regarding reporters there is known enough - the more "worrying" their reports are, the longer they can stay for instance in comfortable and very expansive Tokyo Hotels, the more they earn and the more of the extremely expansive beer they can drink there. 

Your claims are as wrong and annoying as they have been from your first post. 

No regards to you, but to RADSAFErs who are able to read your .......

Franz 

IAEA were giving out that the maximum surface contamination was about 1MBq/square metre (I remember 0.9). The reason was, I believe the surface contamination could be compared to Chernobyl, and at the time they were saying it was nothing like Chernobnyl. But at the same time, there were lots of measurements that they referred to that gave gamma dose rates at 1m of between 10 and 80 microSieverts per hour at distances as far as 60km. Now it is clear to those of us who can do the sums, and who know, that these two values are incompatible by a large factor. And we assume that IAEA are not incompetent when it comes to converting gamma dose rates into surface contamination. So this is not a question of beer drinking reporters demanding too much from harassed TEPCO spokespersons. It is clear cover up of the seriousness of the situation. More recently TEPCO have admi
>  tted knowing that the surface contamination was high and have apologised for not telling those who were being contaminated who could have got out. 
> Sincerely
> Chris
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu on behalf of Stewart Farber
> Sent: Tue 11/10/2011 22:03
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing	List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "mis-information from both TEPCO and the Japanese government immediately after the incident"
>  
> Regarding the behavior of the insensitive German reporter described in the
> post below by Enrico Sardori, I'm reminded of a quote from a German Lit
> class from my youth. Heinrich Heine was a respected German Romantic era poet
> who said:
> 
> "There are more fools in the world than there are people." 
> 
> ---Heinrich Heine
>    German critic & poet (1797 - 1856)
> 
> To listen to the early news coverage of Fukushima it continually blurred the
> line between the Fukushima accident and the impacts of the
> tsunami/earthquake. Reading and watching many news reports, a member of the
> public might easily think the thousands of deaths shown or mentioned that
> resulted from the tsunami and earthquake were caused by the nuclear
> accident. 
> 
> This was lazy, contemptible reporting by many in the media, fed by
> anti-nuclear activists who reveled in the opportunity to advance their
> agenda. 
> 
> A few years from now there may be minor, token mention made in some course
> at the Columbia School of Journalism, of how the print and electronic news
> media failed to do its job responsibly and accurately about the tsunami,
> earthquake, and nuclear accident in Japan. But the astounding, gross failure
> of almost all media to provide factual, non-inflamatory coverage to help the
> Japanese people access the resources they need will almost certainly never
> be properly highlighted.
> 
> 
> Stewart Farber
> ========================
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of radiation
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 4:26 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] "mis-information from both TEPCO and the Japanese
> government immediately after the incident"
> 
> When it happened I was then listening to the German television channel ZDF.
> A reporter from a Tokyo hotel was complaining that he would not receive
> regular fresh information from the Japanese on what was going on in
> Fukushima and he stated that it is known that the Japanese regularly hide
> the truth in these affairs.
> 
> No mention of the distress of the population, the tens of thousands of
> death, the tens of thousands of blessed, the desperate situation of the
> survivors who had lost everything from the tsunami, or were searching for
> the lost members of their family and their friends. And of course, the
> journalist was expecting that the Japanese would give priority to inform him
> at short intervals about the situation in Fukushima while he was drinking
> his beer in a Tokyo hotel, and would please provide the information in
> German if possible.
> 
> What an insult to the people of Japan !
> 
> This was a journalist, who are you Sander C. Perle?
> 
> Enrico Sartori
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> > Mon, 10 Oct 2011 14:07:28 -0400, Perle, Sandy<sperle at mirion.com>  wrote:
> >
> > The problem is that the mis-information from both TEPCO and the Japanese
> government immediately after the incident, continuing on during the incident
> and even after the incident is what causes the public alarm and gives a
> forum to others. Listening to the YouTube there is a lot of truth as to what
> is being stated. The public was misled, mis-information, deliberate or
> otherwise was the norm, so to question Chris regarding just his comments on
> Fukushima, is not as pertinent as one could say about other topics discussed
> here on Radsafe. Fukushima was a disaster with serious consequences and I am
> not confident that we have all of the facts as to what happened, what the
> current state is and how stable the reactors are, even today.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sandy
> >
> > -----------------------------------
> > Sander C. Perle
> 
> 
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