[ RadSafe ] is uranium genotoxic? (was Re: CB interview on enriched U)
Brent Rogers
brent.rogers at optusnet.com.au
Fri Oct 28 15:40:19 CDT 2011
Bob
Jimmy has given himself Plausible deniability by referring to you as 'Lt Cherry'. I'm guessing that hasn't been your title in 30-40 years. Statute of limitations. ; )
Brent Rogers
Sydney Australia
Brevity alert: Sent from my iPad
On 28/10/2011, at 15:20, "Bob Cherry" <bobcherry at satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Jimmy,
>
> << Dr. Raabe has stated quite clearly that uranium is not a genotoxin, and
> Lt. Cherry has testified to that effect.>>
>
> I am quite certain that this is the first time in my life I have typed the
> word "genotoxin," much less ever testifying about it. Please provide a
> reference to your bald-faced lie, oops, I mean "assertion."
>
> Bob C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of James Salsman
> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 8:32 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Cc: ecraft at edf.org
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] is uranium genotoxic? (was Re: CB interview on enriched
> U)
>
> Mike Brennan wrote:
>
>> ... The idea that a lab identified "enriched uranium", supposedly from
>> projectiles, is absurd. Either the people in the lab didn't know what
>> they were doing (possible) or their results were misrepresented (also
>> possible).
>
> It may be absurd, but it's not the first time this has happened.
> Durakovic reported an isotope ratio indicating enriched uranium in soil
> samples in Afghanistan, and the UN admitted some reprocessed fuel had made
> it into some DU munitions in Kosovo:
> http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2001/unep81.doc.htm
>
> Again, do you believe that uranium is a genotoxin or not? The literature is
> abundantly clear on the issue, and I wonder why people on this list get so
> upset about the question. Dr. Raabe has stated quite clearly that uranium
> is not a genotoxin, and Lt. Cherry has testified to that effect. It seems
> like RadSafers ought to be able to decide whether they believe them or the
> peer reviewed literature reviews, or is that question just too hard for a
> yes or no answer?
>
> Steven Dapra wrote:
>
>> Salsman gives a link to a paper by Craft, et al. in the Journal of
>> Toxicology and Environmental Health, Part B, 7:297317, 2004.
>> In its section on "DNA Damage/Carcinogenicity," (p. 308) ...
>> Apparently Craft et al. are right alongside Dr. Raabe and Col. Cherry
>> in not believing that DU is a genotoxin.
>
> I am sending a cc of this message to Dr. Craft. I am not sure she will
> appreciate how Mr. Dapra has characterized pp. 308-9 of
> http://www.dmzhawaii.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/health-overview-04.pdf
>
>> I suspect Salsman's request that as a Navy veteran you can help him
>> obtain statistics is a clever and subtle way of insulting you
>
> No, I honestly haven't been able to get anything out of the Birth and Infant
> Health Registry, even though they were publishing annual reports right up
> until 2001 when the birth defect rate for combat versus noncombat 1991 Gulf
> War veterans started to skyrocket. I just thought Mike might be interested
> enough to help, too. Does anyone know a good FOIA attorney?
>
> Now that it's 20 years out, will someone publish the cancer rate statistics
> for those two groups?
>
> Sincerely,
> James Salsman
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