[ RadSafe ] Encounter with Caldicott and Gundersen on KGO Radio

[William Lipton]

I remember a case at a DOE facility, several years ago, involving an
irradiation room with side shielding, but an unshielded roof.  The RP staff
took surveys with the source out along the side walls, and found the dose
rates acceptable.  A later survey, at ~ 50 feet out, found significantly
higher dose rates.

Bill Lipton
It's not about dose, it's about trust.



On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Chris Alston <achris1999 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Roger
>
> I cannot speak directly to whatever Gundersen is talking about, but
> "skyshine" is just radiation which has been scattered back down, by
> the atmosphere, which originated in a relatively intense source at or
> near ground-level.  I think that there was a well-known instance of
> this phenomenon at Brookhaven, many years ago, involving (I think) a
> Cs source with which they were experimentally irradiating trees.
> However, please do *not* quote me.  You might try Googling it.
>
> Cheers
> cja
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:49 AM
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Encounter with Dr Helen Caldicott and Arnie
> Gundersen on KGO Radio
> To: RADSAFE <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>
>
> Kallie Metzger is the hero of the week.
> http://nuclearliteracy.org/nuclear-all-stars/kallie/
> Wouldn't it be good if more people went to these kinds of meetings and
> questioned the dogma
> preached by Caldicott and others?
>
> I did not hear anyone question Gundersen, all of the callers to the
> Pat Thurston program (5PM-6PM was the actual time that Gundersen was
> on the program) were anti-nuclear power fanatics who seemed to have
> worshipped the ground Gundersen walked on.
>
> As I mentioned before, anyone can download and listen to the
> interview.  I am very certain that Gundersen lied about his own
> background along with making up science along the way.  His concept of
> gamma radiation reflecting off the atmosphere as "deadly skyshine"
> seemed quite far out.  I did not think that anything reflected gamma
> radiation.
>
> www.kgoradio.com, Listen, Hourly Archives, Sunday, 5-6PM (I will also
> be able to send the audio file to anyone who e-mails me and asks for
> it) - I will transcribe this to some degree; it is really hard to do
> since I do not take dictation!
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