[ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Thu Dec 27 11:12:52 CST 2012

Dear Joe,
Sorry to disturb your highly sophisticated speculations by some facts. They
are simple: this socalled image of Jesus is a fake from medeaval times.
Unless you have access and time to go deeper into this topic, look at
Wikipedia. (Citation: In 1988 the University of Oxford, the University of
Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - all of them being
world authorities on radiocarbon dating found independently that the shroud
can be dated to between 1260 and 1390.) The Roman Catholic Church accepted 
this result.  I know that there are some forces
which try to convince people about the stories of the bible and to "prove",
that Jesus was a historical person. Maybe he was, but then one would need to
have first hand information - not second, third or fourth hand one, even
citing "evidence" written down several hundred years later.
I was always amused how some so-called scientists tried desperately to refer 
the discrepancy to "contamination" by sampling and analysing. I never read 
of any calculation, how 33 AC could be mistaken for the 13th century. Those 
people performing analysis are absolute professionals and know, how to avoid 

I know that creationists doubt principally the C-14 mesurements, because 
their results are against their believe. Are you US Radsafers aware that 
creationism does not play any role in Europe or anywhere else? Even the most 
stubborn roman catholic church has acknowledged the concept of evolution!

Best regards,


Sorry Joe, to disturb your dream about cloning Jesus Christ. Forget it.

Best wishes,


sprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: JPreisig at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:02 AM
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: [ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.

Dear Radsafe,

     I hope you all are well.

     Was watching a TV (USA) show this evening about  some fellow trying to
use the Shroud of Turin
to develop a good image of the person who had been buried in the shroud

     Perhaps we scientists can do a bit better  nowadays.

     The shroud has blood on it in fair  quantities.  If the blood was
still alive, scientists might possibly
clone the original being from the live blood.

     Secondly, the DNA itself should eventually yield  ALL??? the
characteristics of the person who had
been buried in the shroud.  Hair color, length of nose, eye color,
height???, weight???, characteristics
of the various body organs, susceptibility to various cancers???,. and so
on.  Wonder if the keepers of
the shroud would allow scientists to take enough blood for a modern

     And perhaps someday, once the exact structure,  composition etc. of
the DNA is known,
one might someday construct a person from the DNA.  Certainly this  would
be quite a difficult
undertaking.  Would the result of this work be Jesus???

    Could we someday construct dinosaurs from total  knowledge of their

    Have a good week at work or at home.

    Regards,   Joe Preisig

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