[ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.

[Howard Long]

Franz, 
Do most physicists believe in the Big Bang theory of creation? 
I am curious as to how many radsafers believe that the known universe was created 
in a flash trillions of times faster than the speed of light. Like most American Christians,
I believe in a Creation in which the duration of God's "day" is beyond comprehension 
(likely a billion orbits of the sun)

I do believe that the Spirit of love (the Commandment of Jesus illustrated by the Parable 
of the Good Samaritan) has largely transformed human relations and that it exists in a 
market economy of individual choice, not in a controlled, political, socialist 
or fascist economy like Europe's or Obama's.

Happy New Year
Howard Long


On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:

> Dear Joe,
> Sorry to disturb your highly sophisticated speculations by some facts. They
> are simple: this socalled image of Jesus is a fake from medeaval times.
> Unless you have access and time to go deeper into this topic, look at
> Wikipedia. (Citation: In 1988 the University of Oxford, the University of
> Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - all of them being
> world authorities on radiocarbon dating found independently that the shroud
> can be dated to between 1260 and 1390.) The Roman Catholic Church accepted this result.  I know that there are some forces
> which try to convince people about the stories of the bible and to "prove",
> that Jesus was a historical person. Maybe he was, but then one would need to
> have first hand information - not second, third or fourth hand one, even
> citing "evidence" written down several hundred years later.
> I was always amused how some so-called scientists tried desperately to refer the discrepancy to "contamination" by sampling and analysing. I never read of any calculation, how 33 AC could be mistaken for the 13th century. Those people performing analysis are absolute professionals and know, how to avoid contamination.
> 
> I know that creationists doubt principally the C-14 mesurements, because their results are against their believe. Are you US Radsafers aware that creationism does not play any role in Europe or anywhere else? Even the most stubborn roman catholic church has acknowledged the concept of evolution!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Franz
> 
> Sorry Joe, to disturb your dream about cloning Jesus Christ. Forget it.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Franz
> 
> 
> sprüngliche Nachricht----- From: JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:02 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.
> 
> Dear Radsafe,
> 
>    I hope you all are well.
> 
>    Was watching a TV (USA) show this evening about  some fellow trying to
> use the Shroud of Turin
> to develop a good image of the person who had been buried in the shroud
> (Jesus???).
> 
>    Perhaps we scientists can do a bit better  nowadays.
> 
>    The shroud has blood on it in fair  quantities.  If the blood was
> still alive, scientists might possibly
> clone the original being from the live blood.
> 
>    Secondly, the DNA itself should eventually yield  ALL??? the
> characteristics of the person who had
> been buried in the shroud.  Hair color, length of nose, eye color,
> height???, weight???, characteristics
> of the various body organs, susceptibility to various cancers???,. and so
> on.  Wonder if the keepers of
> the shroud would allow scientists to take enough blood for a modern
> analysis???
> 
>    And perhaps someday, once the exact structure,  composition etc. of
> the DNA is known,
> one might someday construct a person from the DNA.  Certainly this  would
> be quite a difficult
> undertaking.  Would the result of this work be Jesus???
> 
>   Could we someday construct dinosaurs from total  knowledge of their
> DNA???
> 
>   Have a good week at work or at home.
> 
>   Regards,   Joe Preisig
> 
> 
> 
> 
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