[ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.

[Hans J Wiegert]

For what it is worth, I agree 100% with Howard's statement!
Happy New Year everyone!
Hans



On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Howard Long <howard.long at comcast.net>wrote:

> Franz,
> Do most physicists believe in the Big Bang theory of creation?
> I am curious as to how many radsafers believe that the known universe was
> created
> in a flash trillions of times faster than the speed of light. Like most
> American Christians,
> I believe in a Creation in which the duration of God's "day" is beyond
> comprehension
> (likely a billion orbits of the sun)
>
> I do believe that the Spirit of love (the Commandment of Jesus illustrated
> by the Parable
> of the Good Samaritan) has largely transformed human relations and that it
> exists in a
> market economy of individual choice, not in a controlled, political,
> socialist
> or fascist economy like Europe's or Obama's.
>
> Happy New Year
> Howard Long
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Joe,
> > Sorry to disturb your highly sophisticated speculations by some facts.
> They
> > are simple: this socalled image of Jesus is a fake from medeaval times.
> > Unless you have access and time to go deeper into this topic, look at
> > Wikipedia. (Citation: In 1988 the University of Oxford, the University of
> > Arizona and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology - all of them being
> > world authorities on radiocarbon dating found independently that the
> shroud
> > can be dated to between 1260 and 1390.) The Roman Catholic Church
> accepted this result.  I know that there are some forces
> > which try to convince people about the stories of the bible and to
> "prove",
> > that Jesus was a historical person. Maybe he was, but then one would
> need to
> > have first hand information - not second, third or fourth hand one, even
> > citing "evidence" written down several hundred years later.
> > I was always amused how some so-called scientists tried desperately to
> refer the discrepancy to "contamination" by sampling and analysing. I never
> read of any calculation, how 33 AC could be mistaken for the 13th century.
> Those people performing analysis are absolute professionals and know, how
> to avoid contamination.
> >
> > I know that creationists doubt principally the C-14 mesurements, because
> their results are against their believe. Are you US Radsafers aware that
> creationism does not play any role in Europe or anywhere else? Even the
> most stubborn roman catholic church has acknowledged the concept of
> evolution!
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Franz
> >
> > Sorry Joe, to disturb your dream about cloning Jesus Christ. Forget it.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Franz
> >
> >
> > sprüngliche Nachricht----- From: JPreisig at aol.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:02 AM
> > To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> > Subject: [ RadSafe ] More Cloning, Shroud, Etc.
> >
> > Dear Radsafe,
> >
> >    I hope you all are well.
> >
> >    Was watching a TV (USA) show this evening about  some fellow trying to
> > use the Shroud of Turin
> > to develop a good image of the person who had been buried in the shroud
> > (Jesus???).
> >
> >    Perhaps we scientists can do a bit better  nowadays.
> >
> >    The shroud has blood on it in fair  quantities.  If the blood was
> > still alive, scientists might possibly
> > clone the original being from the live blood.
> >
> >    Secondly, the DNA itself should eventually yield  ALL??? the
> > characteristics of the person who had
> > been buried in the shroud.  Hair color, length of nose, eye color,
> > height???, weight???, characteristics
> > of the various body organs, susceptibility to various cancers???,. and so
> > on.  Wonder if the keepers of
> > the shroud would allow scientists to take enough blood for a modern
> > analysis???
> >
> >    And perhaps someday, once the exact structure,  composition etc. of
> > the DNA is known,
> > one might someday construct a person from the DNA.  Certainly this  would
> > be quite a difficult
> > undertaking.  Would the result of this work be Jesus???
> >
> >   Could we someday construct dinosaurs from total  knowledge of their
> > DNA???
> >
> >   Have a good week at work or at home.
> >
> >   Regards,   Joe Preisig
> >
> >
> >
> >
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