[ RadSafe ] Co-60 tissue box holders: applicableregulationsfordisposal

Sun Jan 22 13:42:44 CST 2012

Dr. Schoenhofer,

I have read your vitriol (anti-USA or pro-academic elitist ) comments long enough, so I would like to put a stop to them as much as possible. My answer to your 1st statement is just get over it if we don't compose our messages like Term Papers; It is an American Thing. Since I do not believe that you are an American, you lack any standing and DO NOT have the right to comment on how any American Citizen may "organize his thoughts" on Radiation Protection.

Now on to your 2nd point. You are absolutely correct that "doserate measurements were reported, but to me they do not seem to be exorbitant high", however as you well know (which one can deduce from your previous RAD-SAFE comments), the average citizenry of the United States are not all Ph.D. level scientists. You see in America, we can be what we want to be. This may mean that some Americans are Nobel Prize winners and others are Ditch Diggers (and this is not a cheap shot at Ditch Diggers), but we have the right (both God given and U.S. Constitutionally protected) to be as much, or as little as we want..  As a Health Physicist, I try daily to educate every person I come in contact in order to attempt to give a perspective to Dose vs Dose Rate, but nearly every time the term Nuclear, Radioactive, or Radiation is used in the US Press, it has the mushroom cloud as a back drop.  This is hard to over come by just one person.

BTW, I understand that Germany will completely abandoned the use of Nuclear Power by 2022 as a direct result of the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster in 2011. You and I both know that the only way to ween ourselves off Carbon based fuels is Nuclear. Yes Fusion is preferred to Fission, but we have Fission right now and it can power our Universities, Homes, Government Offices, etc. RIGHT NOW. Fusion is a noteworthy endeavor and one that significant global resources should be used to perfect, however, it is not a commercially viable option at this time. The Global Energy needs are for now and the future, not just the future only. This knee jerk reaction by the German Government / Chancellor Merkel just shows (to me anyway), that  Government Leaders and others need a better education in all aspects of nuclear power on both side of the Atlantic.

Regards,

Robert Young
615-424-9729 

These comment are mine and mine alone an do not represent my employer.

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From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] on behalf of franz.schoenhofer at chello.at [franz.schoenhofer at chello.at]
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 2:21 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
Cc: Price, John Jr - OSHA
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Co-60 tissue box holders: applicableregulationsfordisposal

May I ask whether there is any reason why I very often receive the same, identical message from RADSAFE twice within one or two minutes? Here I see a third one, closely related to the other one - why can't one organize his thoughts as to present them in one mail.

Secondly: did I miss something? Some doserate measurements were reported, but to me they do not seem to be exorbitant high, rather comparable to exposure during air flights - maybe there is some error in my memory. Therefore no immedeate danger. The facor of duration of exposure is especially neglected in all those horror stories. Any calculations available about the dose delivered to the members of the public???

Though I do not spend my life on toalets I do not recommend that equipment there should exceed limits of regulations.

Best regards,

Franz

---- "Price schrieb:
>
>  Has anyone filed a complaint with the NM Radiation Control Bureau?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Price, John Jr
> - OSHA
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 1:57 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Co-60 tissue box holders: applicable
> regulationsfordisposal
>
> Has anyone filed a complaint with the NM Radiation Control Bureau?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Carl Willis
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 7:20 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Co-60 tissue box holders: applicable regulations
> fordisposal
>
> Dear Radsafers,
>
> As many of us are aware, Bed Bath and Beyond recently stocked some
> India-made tissue box holders that were contaminated with Co-60.  These
> were delivered to a minority of the chain's stores, including the
> Ventura Center store in Albuquerque where I live.  The manager told me
> last Friday there was not a snowball's chance in hell that they would
> even let me see one, let alone purchase one; they had just been boxed up
> for good.  I then had to leave on an out-of-town trip, but on Saturday,
> my friend Gary Bodman, who teaches middle-school physical science here,
> rolled over to BBB with a scintillation detector.  It swung up to ~3x
> local background near the employees' annex in the back of the store.
> Again, though, his advances to merely observe, let alone procure, one of
> these coveted articles were rebuffed with extreme prejudice.  We know
> the items are there!  We know they're hot!  My question to anyone
> knowledgeable is this: is BBB legally prohibited from selling these
> cobalt boxes now, or is it just corporate management or local management
> that's enforcing this policy of uptightness that we observe?  Also, how
> would the store "properly" get rid of their inventory?  My guess is the
> NM Radiation Control Bureau will have that task.  Bottom line is I'd
> love to see one of these things before they're gone and all forgotten.
> Any recommendations are welcome...
>
> -Carl
> 505-412-3277
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