[ RadSafe ] Polonium-210 poisoning again?

edmond0033 at comcast.net edmond0033 at comcast.net
Thu Jul 5 12:42:32 CDT 2012


For those who may remember, Polonium-210 used to be used as a 'static 
eliminator' for use in Analytical Balances.  Also used in some manufacturing 
process to eliminate static.  I don't know where they obtained their 
Polonium-210.

Ed Baratta
edmond0033 at comcast.net

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From: franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
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Cc: JPreisig at aol.com
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Polonium-210 poisoning again?

Joe and other RADSAFErs posting on the Po-210-issue:

I have a few years ago been in London, just at the time when first messages 
about "Litwinenko" appeared in the British papers. There was a lot of 
nonsensical speculations and it took a long time (days) until Po-210 came 
out as the most likely culprit. I was shocked, because Po-210 in such 
extraordinary concentrations in urin would have been easily detectible 
within  a few tens of minutes by Liquid Scintillation Spectrometry. Together 
with my collegue - probably I should rather say, my collegue Gabriele 
Wallner with me! - we showed an extremely fast way to decide on Po-210 
poisoning via urine excretion.

The paper of Gabriele and me was presented at the last LSC cto onference in 
Paris (LSC 2010). You can easily find it on Google, if you are interested.

Yes, most of Po-210 comes from Russia, which a simple Google Research would 
have revealed. There you would also find, what Po-210 is used for except 
killing people.........

Best regards to the innocent USA, which obviously buys Po-210 from Russia.

Franz




---- JPreisig at aol.com schrieb:
> Hmmmm,
>
>        Are these Po-210 sources coming from  the former USSR countries?
> Are these "folks"
> trying to use  Po-210Be as a neutron initiator for their fission
> devices.???  Can't they find
> Americium????   Hmmmm.
>
>        Regards,   Joe Preisig
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/4/2012 2:16:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> mso at forsmark.vattenfall.se writes:
>
> I wonder  if that is something to build a conspiracy on. In the video 
> there
> is an  example saying that they are in the mBq region in their analyses,
> which means  that there would have been GBq amounts 8 years ago at the 
> time of
> Arafats  death (which would have been bad, mmmkay?). That's assuming that
> the Po-210 is  not produced from natural decay. It seems that they rule 
> this
> out by saying  that the Po-210 is "unsupported". What would that mean
> exactly, and how would  that be shown? After 20 or so half-lives, it seems 
> to me
> that it would be  difficult to show anything at all about the chemistry.
>
> Also, what would  the natural amount of Po-210 be, compared to their
> results... It's impossible  to do a proper comparison of course, since 
> it's not
> said how they have  prepared their samples. Anyway, a quick google search
> gives you  [http://irpa11.irpa.net/pdfs/6a52.pdf] with some naturally 
> occuring
> Po-210  levels. Those do not make the French poisoning theory seem very
> plausible to  me. Difficult to say without a proper report, though.
>
> Mattias  Olsson
> Sweden
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> It is reported by Al Jazeera that  elevated levels of Po-210 were found by
> the Institut de Radiophysique in  Lausanne, Switzerland, in some of 
> Arafat's
> final personal  belongings:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cfue36e
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