[ RadSafe ] Fact or Fiction?

edmond0033 at comcast.net edmond0033 at comcast.net
Fri Jul 13 17:50:35 CDT 2012


There is a TV serial in the USA called 'Person of Interest'.  Maybe you 
heard it or not.  It's about a 'machine' that the Government designed to 
detect 'terrorist', but also can detect other crimes.  However, the 
Government doesn't care about the latter.  There are monitors every 
everywhere to do that (monitor everyone).  Maybe they got their idea from 
something like that?

Ed Baratta
edmond0033 at comcast.net

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brennan, Mike (DOH)
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 4:45 PM
To: franz.schoenhofer at chello.at ; The International Radiation Protection 
(Health Physics) MailingList
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fact or Fiction?

Hi, Franz.

I respect you opinion, but I have three reason for being willing to be part 
of the testing of something like this.

The first is on the incredibly small chance that it works as advertised.  I 
know it seems insane, but I remember my first gut reaction to air gel, Bucky 
balls, and rare-earth magnets.  On their face, given what I knew at the 
time, a solid less dense than many gasses, soccer-ball shaped giant carbon 
molecules, and ceramic magnets all seemed unbelievable, but turn out to be 
real, and even useful.  I doubt this device, especially as it is presented, 
but will reserve final judgment until independent testing is done.

The second is the most important, and that is that if no independent testing 
is done, policy makers who have barely enough technical know-how to activate 
a motion-detection light switch will spend more millions of dollars on these 
than you can easily count.  If there is independent testing that shows this 
to be an empty box with a couple of light on the outside, there is at least 
a small chance these won't get bought.  If there is no independent testing, 
every airport will have one not working by the end of next fiscal year.

The third reason is least important, but most personal.  I would love to be 
involved in testing this box, because when it doesn't work, as I expect is 
the case, I would have the chance to write up its shortcomings.  I would 
love the opportunity to test the breadth and depth of the ridicule I would 
heap on the "inventor", manufacturer, and very idea of buying something like 
this.  I would describe in detail the educational, ethical, and intellectual 
shortcomings of anyone who would purchase something like this, and the level 
of corruption it would imply.  I would wax poetic in my ridicule, which 
would give ridicule a lustrous sheen.  I would play with the reputations of 
the "engineers" behind this, much as a cat plays with a mouse, and to much 
the same ends.  And even if I personally could not be involved in the 
testing, I would not begrudge a like-minded person as much enjoyment as this 
activity could bring.

Shoot, I had a fair bit of fun just thinking about how much fun it would be 
to jump all over this.

-----Original Message-----
From: franz.schoenhofer at chello.at [mailto:franz.schoenhofer at chello.at]
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 12:46 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) MailingList
Cc: Brennan, Mike (DOH)
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fact or Fiction?

Mike,

I think I clearly expressed my opinion in the meantime. Let me go a step 
further: Why< should anybody test the "machine", which  is blantant 
nonsense? Why do you want to spend time, effort and most of all money to 
test such a nonsense? May be somebody is waiting to be awarded a contract to 
earn money?

Best regards,

Franz



"Brennan schrieb:
> I would have to see positive results from a skeptical third party, who
> was handed the machine and the manual, and allowed to test it in any
> manner they wished, before I accept this.  The explanation of "how it
> works" really isn't an explanation at all.
>
> It reminds me of the divining rod DOD bought to find bombs in Iraq.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Clayton J
> Bradt
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: royherren2005 at yahoo.com
> Cc: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fact or Fiction?
>
> The technology is most likely fiction. (The author of the article
> requested to remain anonymous.) But the part about DHS planning to
> install
> it soon is entirely believable!
>
> ************************
> http://gizmodo.com/5923980/the-secret-government-laser-that-instantly-kn
> ows-everything-about-you
>
>
> Hidden Government Scanners Will Instantly Know Everything About You From
>
> 164
> Feet Away
> ********************************
>
> Clayton J. Bradt
> Principal Radiophysicist
> NYS Dept. of Health
> Biggs Laboratory, Room D486A
> Empire State Plaza
> Albany, NY 12201-0509
>
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