[ RadSafe ] since we're talking about climate change

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I'll see what I can do once you bother to provide the data
you are basing your claims on, like in

>> Don't tell us "everybody says so", give us the data.
>> 
>> Like the temperature logs from the stations you use to substantiate
>> your "global warming" claim, please. 
>> 
>> Just as I do not expect a customer to buy our spectrometers just
>> on my claim on better resolution and throughput - so I have to
>> at least show some real spectra (though it usually takes a
>> "hands on" test) - the people you want to sell the "global warming"
>> claim to would expect to see your data, not your thoughts on
>> what you have read (like the rest of us) in the media.

Don't have any data? I thought so.

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>From: Karen Street <Karen_Street at sbcglobal.net>
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:31:29 -0700
>To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] since we're talking about climate change
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>Dimiter,
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>Thank you for your answer. Can you link to a science source (eg, NASA/NOAA) with graphs to communicate that Earth is cooling?
>
>What is the mechanism that explains the cooling?
>
>I will only respond to one of your comments, on data. NCDC provides access to climate data. So do a lot of other sites.
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>http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/ncdc.html
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>http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/data-sources/
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>etc
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>> 
>>> I am curious as to what you do believe. 
>> 
>> The beliefs in this context are irrelevant.
>> 
>> What matters are data to support such a claim.
>> 
>> So far all people are fed about the "global warming" (which
>> incidentally is cooling since over a decade IIRC) is religious
>> babble.
>> 
>>> Is Earth warming, and at what rate (in °C/decade)?
>> 
>> No. I have no data on the rate of cooling but I am well aware
>> of the news from all over the planet last few winters reporting
>> disastrous cold weather, last winter in the US being the only
>> exception I can think of in 5 years or so.
>> 
>>> ... Don't use the word natural, but give particular ...
>> 
>> Don't tell us "everybody says so", give us the data.
>> 
>> Like the temperature logs from the stations you use to substantiate
>> your "global warming" claim, please. 
>> 
>> Just as I do not expect a customer to buy our spectrometers just
>> on my claim on better resolution and throughput - so I have to
>> at least show some real spectra (though it usually takes a
>> "hands on" test) - the people you want to sell the "global warming"
>> claim to would expect to see your data, not your thoughts on
>> what you have read (like the rest of us) in the media.
>> 
>> Dimiter
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>>> From: Karen Street <Karen_Street at sbcglobal.net>
>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 12:12:15 -0700
>>> To: "The International Radiation Protection \(Health Physics\) Mailing List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] since we're talking about climate change
>>> 
>>> In the past and just now, people on this list who don't accept 
>>> climate change have posted that they don't accept climate change.
>>> 
>>> I am curious as to what you do believe. 
>>> 
>>> Please avoid explaining that the overwhelming number of scientists
>>> are wrong or read this or that this great scientist thinks other
>>> scientists are wrong.  
>>> 
>>>  Is Earth warming, and at what rate (in °C/decade)?
>>> 
>>>  What is the cause? Don't use the word natural, but give particular
>>> mechanisms, such as Earth is moving closer to the sun.  When I ask climate
>>> skeptics/deniers these questions, it feels like pulling teeth to get
>>> answers other than, "you're wrong, you child of Satan." Or the ones
>>> about natural or scientists are just wrong or here is my scientist
>>> (inject name of novelist or journalist) who disagrees.  
>>> 
>>> I really am curious.
>>>