[ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????

Brennan, Mike (DOH) Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV
Mon Jun 11 12:45:35 CDT 2012


Hi, John.

I am not sure what you are trying to say.  If you are saying that it is
impossible to get pure D, then I would agree, though it is fairly easy
to concentrate D to higher than normal natural ratio.  The higher the
concentration, the more difficult and expensive it is, but it can be
done.  

Be that as it may, there is a lot more involved in making a fusion bomb
than strapping a tank of deuterium (or even a tank of mixed deuterium
and tritium) onto a fission bomb.   

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of John R Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????

Mike

I'm sure you know that we can't only have deuterium as our only source
of
hydrogen because H and D have different molecular rates.

John

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) <
Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov> wrote:

> The short answer is, "no".  One cannot use off the shelf canisters of
> deuterium and a random fission bomb and make a fusion bomb.  I
actually
> know the long answer, but it would take more time than I have at the
> moment, and the answer is still, "no".
>
> A tank of deuterium is no more dangerous than a similar size tank of
> regular hydrogen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????
>
> Dear Radsafe,
>
>     The Fusor website is pretty interesting.   Kids and adults doing
> fusion science with
> high voltage power supplies, bottles of deuterium, etc.  Normally I
> would
> just chuckle about all this,
> but I have some concerns.
>
>     The Voltages being used are pretty high, and the  power supplies
> are
> not necessarily
> good, off-the-shelf, well-designed power supplies.
>
>     People are buying lab. bottles of deuterium from  Scientific
supply
>
> houses etc.  For a few hundred $$$.
> This is a low-level proliferation hazard.  Transactions should be
> tracked.
>  Someone buying more than a
> few lab. bottles of deuterium needs to be tracked.
>
>     One Suitcase nuke from the former USSR, or  wherever, combined
with
> a
> fair amount of
> deuterium could produce a home-grown Hydrogen (Fusion) weapon.  D, D
> reaction etc.
> It could happen.  It shouldn't be allowed to happen.  No wonder  the
> USA/Allies were so
> concerned about that Heavy Water plant in Norway (or wherever) during
> World
>  War II.
> The Hydrogen weapon might have already been in someones mind at that
> time.
>
>     I see no evidence of neutron shielding for these  Fusor amateur
> fusion
> efforts.
> Shielding should happen as such experiments are scaled up.
>
>     I'd hate to see what would happen to a safety  official (state
> government level???) on the western
> USA coast if some kid were to electrocute himself, and the state
> official
> knew the
> situation.
>
>    Have a safe day...      Regards,    Joseph R. (Joe) Preisig, PhD
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/8/2012 3:06:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> JPreisig at aol.com writes:
>
> Kristian  and Radsafe,
>
> What a seriously cool thread here  on  radsafe.  A small 200 keV
> particle accelerator with
> possibility of having a deuterium and/or tritium source would allow
one
> to
>
> do fundamental fusion
> research in a rather small academic  and/or corporate environment.
Get
> 2
> LiI detectors with
> a  set of polyethylene Bonner spheres and you can readily measure the
> neutron spectra coming from
> your fusion experiment.  Fusion, Cold  Fusion, Warm Fusion,
> whatever....
>
> Doggone,  scooped on my research grant  application by a group of
> basement  inventors.  Ouch.
>
> Google search   also      migma AND maglich   (self-colliding   beam
> fusion).
>
> Someone's going to the Fusion  promised-land  well ahead of PPPL
> (Princeton Plasma Physics
> Lab)  and/or ITER (International Fusion Effort).   See Radsafe
> archives
> for
> very much more information.
>
> Have  a great  weekend!!!!     Regards,   Joseph R.  (Joe)  Preisig,
PhD
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/8/2012  12:24:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> doctorbill34 at gmail.com  writes:
>
> When I  worked at Argonne, a group of researchers built  its own
> homemade
> particle  accelerator; didn't bother to tell hp, of  course.
>
> It's a tribute to the  intelligence of American scientists  that most
of
>
> them
> survive working under  the conditions they create  for themselves!
>
> Bill Lipton
> It's not  about dose, it's about  trust.
> On Jun 8, 2012 10:16 AM, "Kristian Ukkonen"  <ktu at iki.fi>  wrote:
>
> > On 6/7/2012 18:17, Ted de Castro   wrote:
> >
> >> I thought people here might be interested in  seeing  this link
> telling
> >> whomever how to make their own  x-ray  machine.
> >>
> >> Now "Instructables" is a great  web site with  articles telling you
> how
> to
> >> make all sorts of  interesting and  useful things - and some,
> well.......
> >>
> >> A while ago they  had a "make a spot  welder from a microwave oven
> >> transformer" that  was a major  electrical death trap.
> >>
> >> Today I got my  usual  email showing new entries and saw this one:
> >>
> >>   http://www.instructables.com/**id/How-to-X-Ray/<http://www.instru
> ctables.com/id/How-to-X-Ray/>
> >>
> >
> >   Nothing new. Already in 50s amateurs were building crude x-ray
> machines
> > from 01, 6BK4 triode etc. commercial tubes.. One of   instructions
was
> > in "amateur scientist" column of Scientific  American  in 7/1956 by
> > C.L.Stong. Also there was Van de Graff  generator based
> proton/deuteron
> > linear accelerator in 8/1971  number.. For a whole  list, see
> >
>
http://amasci.com/amateur/**sciamdx.html<http://amasci.com/amateur/sciam
> dx.h
> tml>
> >
> >   Nowadays people are already building inertial electrostatic
> confinement
> > deuterium fusion reactors in their basements with  proven  neutron
> > production by activation experiments.. X-ray  tubes are so old
news.
> :)
> >  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Fusor
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor>
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