[ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????
John R Johnson
idiasjrj at gmail.com
Mon Jun 11 13:43:28 CDT 2012
Sorry Mike.
I was trying to say that mammals can't survive on pure D. It least that's
what the biologest told us at the Chalk River Labs when I worked there.
John
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) <
Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov> wrote:
> Hi, John.
>
> I am not sure what you are trying to say. If you are saying that it is
> impossible to get pure D, then I would agree, though it is fairly easy
> to concentrate D to higher than normal natural ratio. The higher the
> concentration, the more difficult and expensive it is, but it can be
> done.
>
> Be that as it may, there is a lot more involved in making a fusion bomb
> than strapping a tank of deuterium (or even a tank of mixed deuterium
> and tritium) onto a fission bomb.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of John R Johnson
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:32 AM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????
>
> Mike
>
> I'm sure you know that we can't only have deuterium as our only source
> of
> hydrogen because H and D have different molecular rates.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Brennan, Mike (DOH) <
> Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov> wrote:
>
> > The short answer is, "no". One cannot use off the shelf canisters of
> > deuterium and a random fission bomb and make a fusion bomb. I
> actually
> > know the long answer, but it would take more time than I have at the
> > moment, and the answer is still, "no".
> >
> > A tank of deuterium is no more dangerous than a similar size tank of
> > regular hydrogen.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> > JPreisig at aol.com
> > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM
> > To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????
> >
> > Dear Radsafe,
> >
> > The Fusor website is pretty interesting. Kids and adults doing
> > fusion science with
> > high voltage power supplies, bottles of deuterium, etc. Normally I
> > would
> > just chuckle about all this,
> > but I have some concerns.
> >
> > The Voltages being used are pretty high, and the power supplies
> > are
> > not necessarily
> > good, off-the-shelf, well-designed power supplies.
> >
> > People are buying lab. bottles of deuterium from Scientific
> supply
> >
> > houses etc. For a few hundred $$$.
> > This is a low-level proliferation hazard. Transactions should be
> > tracked.
> > Someone buying more than a
> > few lab. bottles of deuterium needs to be tracked.
> >
> > One Suitcase nuke from the former USSR, or wherever, combined
> with
> > a
> > fair amount of
> > deuterium could produce a home-grown Hydrogen (Fusion) weapon. D, D
> > reaction etc.
> > It could happen. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. No wonder the
> > USA/Allies were so
> > concerned about that Heavy Water plant in Norway (or wherever) during
> > World
> > War II.
> > The Hydrogen weapon might have already been in someones mind at that
> > time.
> >
> > I see no evidence of neutron shielding for these Fusor amateur
> > fusion
> > efforts.
> > Shielding should happen as such experiments are scaled up.
> >
> > I'd hate to see what would happen to a safety official (state
> > government level???) on the western
> > USA coast if some kid were to electrocute himself, and the state
> > official
> > knew the
> > situation.
> >
> > Have a safe day... Regards, Joseph R. (Joe) Preisig, PhD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/8/2012 3:06:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > JPreisig at aol.com writes:
> >
> > Kristian and Radsafe,
> >
> > What a seriously cool thread here on radsafe. A small 200 keV
> > particle accelerator with
> > possibility of having a deuterium and/or tritium source would allow
> one
> > to
> >
> > do fundamental fusion
> > research in a rather small academic and/or corporate environment.
> Get
> > 2
> > LiI detectors with
> > a set of polyethylene Bonner spheres and you can readily measure the
> > neutron spectra coming from
> > your fusion experiment. Fusion, Cold Fusion, Warm Fusion,
> > whatever....
> >
> > Doggone, scooped on my research grant application by a group of
> > basement inventors. Ouch.
> >
> > Google search also migma AND maglich (self-colliding beam
> > fusion).
> >
> > Someone's going to the Fusion promised-land well ahead of PPPL
> > (Princeton Plasma Physics
> > Lab) and/or ITER (International Fusion Effort). See Radsafe
> > archives
> > for
> > very much more information.
> >
> > Have a great weekend!!!! Regards, Joseph R. (Joe) Preisig,
> PhD
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 6/8/2012 12:24:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > doctorbill34 at gmail.com writes:
> >
> > When I worked at Argonne, a group of researchers built its own
> > homemade
> > particle accelerator; didn't bother to tell hp, of course.
> >
> > It's a tribute to the intelligence of American scientists that most
> of
> >
> > them
> > survive working under the conditions they create for themselves!
> >
> > Bill Lipton
> > It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> > On Jun 8, 2012 10:16 AM, "Kristian Ukkonen" <ktu at iki.fi> wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/7/2012 18:17, Ted de Castro wrote:
> > >
> > >> I thought people here might be interested in seeing this link
> > telling
> > >> whomever how to make their own x-ray machine.
> > >>
> > >> Now "Instructables" is a great web site with articles telling you
> > how
> > to
> > >> make all sorts of interesting and useful things - and some,
> > well.......
> > >>
> > >> A while ago they had a "make a spot welder from a microwave oven
> > >> transformer" that was a major electrical death trap.
> > >>
> > >> Today I got my usual email showing new entries and saw this one:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.instructables.com/**id/How-to-X-Ray/<http://www.instru
> > ctables.com/id/How-to-X-Ray/>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Nothing new. Already in 50s amateurs were building crude x-ray
> > machines
> > > from 01, 6BK4 triode etc. commercial tubes.. One of instructions
> was
> > > in "amateur scientist" column of Scientific American in 7/1956 by
> > > C.L.Stong. Also there was Van de Graff generator based
> > proton/deuteron
> > > linear accelerator in 8/1971 number.. For a whole list, see
> > >
> >
> http://amasci.com/amateur/**sciamdx.html<http://amasci.com/amateur/sciam
> > dx.h
> > tml>
> > >
> > > Nowadays people are already building inertial electrostatic
> > confinement
> > > deuterium fusion reactors in their basements with proven neutron
> > > production by activation experiments.. X-ray tubes are so old
> news.
> > :)
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Fusor
> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor>
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