[ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????

Wed Jun 13 16:27:08 CDT 2012

THERMONUCLEAR WANNABE LIST OF THINGS TO DO:
(partial list):

1...  Buy many lab. cylinders of deuterium

2.    Buy off-the-shelf (New/USA Model???) Mini-Nuclear  Reactor

       or Build Reactor Yourself.  Put  it next to your working Fusor 
Research Equipment

       (Beware of Electric Shocks!!!)

3.    Breed Tritium (see Kaplan's Nuclear Physics  book)

4.    Buy Suitcase Nuclear Fission Device from Former  USSR (if 
available)???

5.    Look through back issues of Popular Mechanics/Popular  Science for 
Thermonuclear Device.
       Design Description.  Or ask  Iranian or North Korean Nuclear 
Physicist for Advice.

6.    STRAP Fission Weapon to Deuterium/Tritium as per  instructions in 
Popular Science/Popular
       Mechanics.  If you get hung up,  refer to the fission/fusion Senior 
Thesis by that kid at 
       Princeton U.

7.    Fly/Sail/Swim to Marshall Islands... Ask for  Directions in Hawaii????

8.    Tell Marshall Islanders to get off the Island for a  while.

9.    Test the Thermonuclear Bad Boy!!!!!

10.  That wasn't so hard, was it????

       Take Care....   JRP

In a message dated 6/11/2012 1:46:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV writes:

Hi,  John.

I am not sure what you are trying to say.  If you are saying  that it is
impossible to get pure D, then I would agree, though it is  fairly easy
to concentrate D to higher than normal natural ratio.  The  higher the
concentration, the more difficult and expensive it is, but it  can be
done.  

Be that as it may, there is a lot more involved  in making a fusion bomb
than strapping a tank of deuterium (or even a tank  of mixed deuterium
and tritium) onto a fission bomb.    

-----Original Message-----
From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu]  On Behalf Of John R Johnson
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:32 AM
To: The  International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near  you???????

Mike

I'm sure you know that we can't only have  deuterium as our only source
of
hydrogen because H and D have different  molecular rates.

John

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Brennan,  Mike (DOH) <
Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov> wrote:

> The short  answer is, "no".  One cannot use off the shelf canisters of
>  deuterium and a random fission bomb and make a fusion bomb.   I
actually
> know the long answer, but it would take more time than I  have at the
> moment, and the answer is still, "no".
>
> A  tank of deuterium is no more dangerous than a similar size tank of
>  regular hydrogen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>  [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
>  JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM
> To:  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a  basement near you???????
>
> Dear Radsafe,
>
>   The Fusor website is pretty interesting.   Kids and  adults doing
> fusion science with
> high voltage power supplies,  bottles of deuterium, etc.  Normally I
> would
> just chuckle  about all this,
> but I have some concerns.
>
>   The Voltages being used are pretty high, and the  power  supplies
> are
> not necessarily
> good, off-the-shelf,  well-designed power supplies.
>
>     People are  buying lab. bottles of deuterium from   Scientific
supply
>
> houses etc.  For a few hundred  $$$.
> This is a low-level proliferation hazard.  Transactions  should be
> tracked.
>  Someone buying more than a
>  few lab. bottles of deuterium needs to be tracked.
>
>   One Suitcase nuke from the former USSR, or  wherever,  combined
with
> a
> fair amount of
> deuterium could  produce a home-grown Hydrogen (Fusion) weapon.  D, D
> reaction  etc.
> It could happen.  It shouldn't be allowed to happen.   No wonder  the
> USA/Allies were so
> concerned about that  Heavy Water plant in Norway (or wherever) during
> World
>   War II.
> The Hydrogen weapon might have already been in someones mind  at that
> time.
>
>     I see no evidence of  neutron shielding for these  Fusor amateur
> fusion
>  efforts.
> Shielding should happen as such experiments are scaled  up.
>
>     I'd hate to see what would happen to a  safety  official (state
> government level???) on the  western
> USA coast if some kid were to electrocute himself, and the  state
> official
> knew the
>  situation.
>
>    Have a safe day...       Regards,    Joseph R. (Joe) Preisig,  PhD
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/8/2012  3:06:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> JPreisig at aol.com  writes:
>
> Kristian  and Radsafe,
>
> What a  seriously cool thread here  on  radsafe.  A small 200  keV
> particle accelerator with
> possibility of having a  deuterium and/or tritium source would allow
one
> to
>
>  do fundamental fusion
> research in a rather small academic  and/or  corporate environment.
Get
> 2
> LiI detectors with
>  a  set of polyethylene Bonner spheres and you can readily measure  the
> neutron spectra coming from
> your fusion experiment.   Fusion, Cold  Fusion, Warm Fusion,
> whatever....
>
>  Doggone,  scooped on my research grant  application by a group  of
> basement  inventors.  Ouch.
>
> Google  search   also      migma AND maglich    (self-colliding   beam
> fusion).
>
> Someone's  going to the Fusion  promised-land  well ahead of PPPL
>  (Princeton Plasma Physics
> Lab)  and/or ITER (International Fusion  Effort).   See Radsafe
> archives
> for
> very  much more information.
>
> Have  a great   weekend!!!!     Regards,   Joseph R.   (Joe)  Preisig,
PhD
>
>
>
>
>
> In  a message dated 6/8/2012  12:24:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  doctorbill34 at gmail.com  writes:
>
> When I  worked at  Argonne, a group of researchers built  its own
> homemade
>  particle  accelerator; didn't bother to tell hp, of   course.
>
> It's a tribute to the  intelligence of American  scientists  that most
of
>
> them
> survive working  under  the conditions they create  for themselves!
>
>  Bill Lipton
> It's not  about dose, it's about  trust.
>  On Jun 8, 2012 10:16 AM, "Kristian Ukkonen"  <ktu at iki.fi>   wrote:
>
> > On 6/7/2012 18:17, Ted de Castro    wrote:
> >
> >> I thought people here might be interested  in  seeing  this link
> telling
> >> whomever how  to make their own  x-ray  machine.
> >>
> >>  Now "Instructables" is a great  web site with  articles telling  you
> how
> to
> >> make all sorts of   interesting and  useful things - and some,
> well.......
>  >>
> >> A while ago they  had a "make a spot   welder from a microwave oven
> >> transformer" that  was a  major  electrical death trap.
> >>
> >> Today I  got my  usual  email showing new entries and saw this one:
>  >>
> >>    http://www.instructables.com/**id/How-to-X-Ray/<http://www.instru
>  ctables.com/id/How-to-X-Ray/>
> >>
> >
>  >   Nothing new. Already in 50s amateurs were building crude  x-ray
> machines
> > from 01, 6BK4 triode etc. commercial  tubes.. One of   instructions
was
> > in "amateur  scientist" column of Scientific  American  in 7/1956 by
> >  C.L.Stong. Also there was Van de Graff  generator based
>  proton/deuteron
> > linear accelerator in 8/1971  number.. For a  whole  list, see
>  >
>
http://amasci.com/amateur/**sciamdx.html<http://amasci.com/amateur/sciam
>  dx.h
> tml>
> >
> >   Nowadays people are  already building inertial electrostatic
> confinement
> >  deuterium fusion reactors in their basements with  proven   neutron
> > production by activation experiments.. X-ray  tubes  are so old
news.
> :)
> >   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Fusor
>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor>
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