[ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near you???????

Maury maurysis at peoplepc.com
Wed Jun 13 18:28:51 CDT 2012


Thanks Joe, but I became so exasperated at Step 5 with the import/export 
authorities that I got hot under the collar, lost my temper, and blew up!!!!
Best,
Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel   maurysis at peoplepc.com]

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On 6/13/2012 4:27 PM, JPreisig at aol.com wrote:
> THERMONUCLEAR WANNABE LIST OF THINGS TO DO:
> (partial list):
>
> 1...  Buy many lab. cylinders of deuterium
>
> 2.    Buy off-the-shelf (New/USA Model???) Mini-Nuclear  Reactor
>
>         or Build Reactor Yourself.  Put  it next to your working Fusor
> Research Equipment
>
>         (Beware of Electric Shocks!!!)
>
> 3.    Breed Tritium (see Kaplan's Nuclear Physics  book)
>
> 4.    Buy Suitcase Nuclear Fission Device from Former  USSR (if
> available)???
>
> 5.    Look through back issues of Popular Mechanics/Popular  Science for
> Thermonuclear Device.
>         Design Description.  Or ask  Iranian or North Korean Nuclear
> Physicist for Advice.
>
> 6.    STRAP Fission Weapon to Deuterium/Tritium as per  instructions in
> Popular Science/Popular
>         Mechanics.  If you get hung up,  refer to the fission/fusion Senior
> Thesis by that kid at
>         Princeton U.
>
> 7.    Fly/Sail/Swim to Marshall Islands... Ask for  Directions in Hawaii????
>
> 8.    Tell Marshall Islanders to get off the Island for a  while.
>
> 9.    Test the Thermonuclear Bad Boy!!!!!
>
> 10.  That wasn't so hard, was it????
>
>         Take Care....   JRP
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/11/2012 1:46:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV writes:
>
> Hi,  John.
>
> I am not sure what you are trying to say.  If you are saying  that it is
> impossible to get pure D, then I would agree, though it is  fairly easy
> to concentrate D to higher than normal natural ratio.  The  higher the
> concentration, the more difficult and expensive it is, but it  can be
> done.
>
> Be that as it may, there is a lot more involved  in making a fusion bomb
> than strapping a tank of deuterium (or even a tank  of mixed deuterium
> and tritium) onto a fission bomb.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu]  On Behalf Of John R Johnson
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:32 AM
> To: The  International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a basement near  you???????
>
> Mike
>
> I'm sure you know that we can't only have  deuterium as our only source
> of
> hydrogen because H and D have different  molecular rates.
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Brennan,  Mike (DOH)<
> Mike.Brennan at doh.wa.gov>  wrote:
>
>> The short  answer is, "no".  One cannot use off the shelf canisters of
>>   deuterium and a random fission bomb and make a fusion bomb.   I
> actually
>> know the long answer, but it would take more time than I  have at the
>> moment, and the answer is still, "no".
>>
>> A  tank of deuterium is no more dangerous than a similar size tank of
>>   regular hydrogen.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>   [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
>>   JPreisig at aol.com
>> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 4:25 PM
>> To:  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Coming soon to a  basement near you???????
>>
>> Dear Radsafe,
>>
>>    The Fusor website is pretty interesting.   Kids and  adults doing
>> fusion science with
>> high voltage power supplies,  bottles of deuterium, etc.  Normally I
>> would
>> just chuckle  about all this,
>> but I have some concerns.
>>
>>    The Voltages being used are pretty high, and the  power  supplies
>> are
>> not necessarily
>> good, off-the-shelf,  well-designed power supplies.
>>
>>      People are  buying lab. bottles of deuterium from   Scientific
> supply
>> houses etc.  For a few hundred  $$$.
>> This is a low-level proliferation hazard.  Transactions  should be
>> tracked.
>>   Someone buying more than a
>>   few lab. bottles of deuterium needs to be tracked.
>>
>>    One Suitcase nuke from the former USSR, or  wherever,  combined
> with
>> a
>> fair amount of
>> deuterium could  produce a home-grown Hydrogen (Fusion) weapon.  D, D
>> reaction  etc.
>> It could happen.  It shouldn't be allowed to happen.   No wonder  the
>> USA/Allies were so
>> concerned about that  Heavy Water plant in Norway (or wherever) during
>> World
>>    War II.
>> The Hydrogen weapon might have already been in someones mind  at that
>> time.
>>
>>      I see no evidence of  neutron shielding for these  Fusor amateur
>> fusion
>>   efforts.
>> Shielding should happen as such experiments are scaled  up.
>>
>>      I'd hate to see what would happen to a  safety  official (state
>> government level???) on the  western
>> USA coast if some kid were to electrocute himself, and the  state
>> official
>> knew the
>>   situation.
>>
>>     Have a safe day...       Regards,    Joseph R. (Joe) Preisig,  PhD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 6/8/2012  3:06:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> JPreisig at aol.com  writes:
>>
>> Kristian  and Radsafe,
>>
>> What a  seriously cool thread here  on  radsafe.  A small 200  keV
>> particle accelerator with
>> possibility of having a  deuterium and/or tritium source would allow
> one
>> to
>>
>>   do fundamental fusion
>> research in a rather small academic  and/or  corporate environment.
> Get
>> 2
>> LiI detectors with
>>   a  set of polyethylene Bonner spheres and you can readily measure  the
>> neutron spectra coming from
>> your fusion experiment.   Fusion, Cold  Fusion, Warm Fusion,
>> whatever....
>>
>>   Doggone,  scooped on my research grant  application by a group  of
>> basement  inventors.  Ouch.
>>
>> Google  search   also      migma AND maglich    (self-colliding   beam
>> fusion).
>>
>> Someone's  going to the Fusion  promised-land  well ahead of PPPL
>>   (Princeton Plasma Physics
>> Lab)  and/or ITER (International Fusion  Effort).   See Radsafe
>> archives
>> for
>> very  much more information.
>>
>> Have  a great   weekend!!!!     Regards,   Joseph R.   (Joe)  Preisig,
> PhD
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In  a message dated 6/8/2012  12:24:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>   doctorbill34 at gmail.com  writes:
>>
>> When I  worked at  Argonne, a group of researchers built  its own
>> homemade
>>   particle  accelerator; didn't bother to tell hp, of   course.
>>
>> It's a tribute to the  intelligence of American  scientists  that most
> of
>> them
>> survive working  under  the conditions they create  for themselves!
>>
>>   Bill Lipton
>> It's not  about dose, it's about  trust.
>>   On Jun 8, 2012 10:16 AM, "Kristian Ukkonen"<ktu at iki.fi>    wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/7/2012 18:17, Ted de Castro    wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought people here might be interested  in  seeing  this link
>> telling
>>>> whomever how  to make their own  x-ray  machine.
>>>>
>>>>   Now "Instructables" is a great  web site with  articles telling  you
>> how
>> to
>>>> make all sorts of   interesting and  useful things - and some,
>> well.......
>>   >>
>>>> A while ago they  had a "make a spot   welder from a microwave oven
>>>> transformer" that  was a  major  electrical death trap.
>>>>
>>>> Today I  got my  usual  email showing new entries and saw this one:
>>   >>
>>>>     http://www.instructables.com/**id/How-to-X-Ray/<http://www.instru
>>   ctables.com/id/How-to-X-Ray/>
>>   >    Nothing new. Already in 50s amateurs were building crude  x-ray
>> machines
>>> from 01, 6BK4 triode etc. commercial  tubes.. One of   instructions
> was
>>> in "amateur  scientist" column of Scientific  American  in 7/1956 by
>>>   C.L.Stong. Also there was Van de Graff  generator based
>>   proton/deuteron
>>> linear accelerator in 8/1971  number.. For a  whole  list, see
>>   >
>>
> http://amasci.com/amateur/**sciamdx.html<http://amasci.com/amateur/sciam
>>   dx.h
>> tml>
>>>    Nowadays people are  already building inertial electrostatic
>> confinement
>>>   deuterium fusion reactors in their basements with  proven   neutron
>>> production by activation experiments.. X-ray  tubes  are so old
> news.
>> :)
>>>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Fusor
>>   <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor>
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