[ RadSafe ] "Communicating with the public and the press"

JPreisig at aol.com JPreisig at aol.com
Wed Aug 21 08:52:19 CDT 2013

      No impugning desired.  However, current  oceanfront Japanese reactors 
apparently need a 50 foot
high tsunami wall for NEXT TIME.
     Joe Preisig
In a message dated 8/21/2013 9:46:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
estabrookshb at y12.doe.gov writes:

The EDGs  were flood protected.  It's disingenuous to impugn the plant  
designers/builders by suggesting otherwise.  The seawalls were just not  
sufficient to protect against the historically unprecedented wave  heights.


"The  earthquake was followed by a 13-15 m (43-49 ft) maximum height 
tsunami  arriving approximately 50 minutes later which topped the plant's 5.7 m 
(19 ft)  seawall,[74][75][76] flooding the basement of the Turbine Buildings 
and  disabling the emergency diesel generators[77][78] located there[73] at  
approximately 15:41.[71][79]"

-----Original  Message-----
From: William Lipton [mailto:doctorbill34 at gmail.com] 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:39 AM
To: Estabrooks, H Bates (IHK);  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu; Peter Crane
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ]  "Communicating with the public and the press"

Are you saying that it  takes a "prophetic" engineer to flood protect
emergency systems for a  tsunami susceptible plant?
Bill Lipton
It's not about dose,  it's

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From: Estabrooks, H Bates  (IHK)
Sent: 8/21/2013 8:47
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu; Peter Crane;  William Lipton
Cc: Estabrooks, H Bates (IHK)
Subject: RE: [ RadSafe ]  "Communicating with the public and the press"

How far beyond  the "beyond design basis event/accident" do you design for?

The  magnitudes of the earthquake and resultant tsunami were
historically  unprecedented.

To insist on a design/build to protect against them  would not have
called for a "courageous" engineer, but rather a prophetic  engineer.
So far we have no degree programs for that skill.

Bates  Estabrooks

-----Original Message-----
From:  radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu]  On Behalf Of William
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:38  AM
To: Peter Crane; radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ]  "Communicating with the public and the press"

(Otto G.  Raabe)
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Instead  of debating what brand of lipstick to put on the pig, we should
be  addressing the real safety issues. You can never explain away
Fukushima or  other fiascos.

Compliance with the letter of the regs is not good  enough. One engineer
with the competence and courage to insist the  emergency generators be
flood protected would have prevented a tragedy that  will affect
Bill Lipton
It's not about dose, it's about  trust.

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