[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1175, Issue 1
DORAN, GERARD A
GDORAN at entergy.com
Fri Jan 4 17:18:19 CST 2013
Re: Drought (JPreisig at aol.com)
I rather enjoy reading Joe's posts. They reflect a refreshing stream of consciousness. I look forward to reading them, and other posts, during my lunch hour. Climate changes (Chandler Wobble(s) and Annual Wobble), Mississippi River water level and artifact hunting (possible discovery of lost sources), Mayan calendar predictions (good for vacation planning), and so on.
At the risk of stirring the pot, I do not think the posts are too far off topic (one could make a relevance case for the majority of them) or too time consuming.
Just sayin,
Gerry Doran, CHP
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Today's Topics:
1. Drought (JPreisig at aol.com)
2. Re: Drought (Philip Simpson)
3. Re: Drought (Dan McCarn)
4. nazi dirty bomb and New York (Fred BY)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 15:42:31 -0500 (EST)
From: JPreisig at aol.com
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Drought
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
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Dear Radsafe:
Hey All. OT----
Hope you all are well. I expect the drought in the USA (and Northern
Hemisphere???) (and World???)
will extend mostly in the time range 2020 +/- 6 years or so. Earth polar
motion peaks (times of extremely
warm summers and extremely cold winters) were in 1910, 1954, 1998, (2042).
The in between
Earth polar motion (i.e. Chandler Wobble(s) and Annual Wobble) times are
1932, 1976, 2020 etc.
You may recall the Dust Storms (Central USA) in 1932. See Ken Burns'
Documentary on these hard
times. I personally do not recall conditions of drought in 1976 or
thereabouts. I expect, with only some
fairly rudimentary evidence that 2020 will be much like 1932.
Canada will probably enjoy warm times in this time period around 2020
(i.e fairly warm winters).
Apparently there are reports of a fairly dry winter in the midwest
USA. People in the Mississippi
River Region are also reporting low River Water Levels.
Clearly the Earth's Ice Caps melt and re-solidify each year, depending
on whether the season is
winter or Summer. I suspect around 2020 that the Earth's Ice Caps will
re-solidify more and more
as time goes on (especially with respect to recent times). The various
Earth periodic solar and thermal
cycles will continue onward and repeat.
As for any superimposed global warming signature, due to human causes,
well that has already been
discussed here. Various people have various opinions. Data taken over
the next 5 to 10 years
should resolve this question a bit.
We made it through December 21, 2012. Whew!!! Mayan Tourism is
booming, apparently.
>From what I've heard on various Mayan Calendar TV shows, the Mayan Calendar
was computed for
a full 26,000 years???? That seems to coincide with value of the main
Precession Period --- 26,000
years. Maybe whoever was doing the computing, decided, with the crude
computing tools they had
at hand, that doing the calculation for one full Precession Period was good
enough. Works for me.
As for highly enriched reactors, if the placement of more than a few
humans around a reactor
causes it to go critical, then one needs to bring the enrichment down a
bit??? Thanks for posting
about such research projects way back when.
Regards, Joe Preisig
PS If you live by the Mississippi River, and the water levels are going
down, I'm sure one can find all
kinds of neat things on the exposed river bottom --- archeological
finds, guns which have been
tossed in the river, cell phones, wedding and/or engagement rings
and so on. Good hunting.
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:26:24 -0500
From: Philip Simpson <phils at umich.edu>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drought
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Happy New Year Joe,
While I find some of your ruminations entertaining, many appear to have nothing to do with the purpose for which I understood the Radsafe list to exist. Can we please stay on topic and cut down on the extraneous messages in my and others email boxes?
Thanks in advance,
Phil Simpson
On Jan 3, 2013, at 3:42 PM, JPreisig at aol.com wrote:
> Dear Radsafe:
>
> Hey All. OT----
>
> Hope you all are well. I expect the drought in the USA (and Northern
> Hemisphere???) (and World???)
> will extend mostly in the time range 2020 +/- 6 years or so. Earth polar
> motion peaks (times of extremely
> warm summers and extremely cold winters) were in 1910, 1954, 1998, (2042).
> The in between
> Earth polar motion (i.e. Chandler Wobble(s) and Annual Wobble) times are
> 1932, 1976, 2020 etc.
> You may recall the Dust Storms (Central USA) in 1932. See Ken Burns'
> Documentary on these hard
> times. I personally do not recall conditions of drought in 1976 or
> thereabouts. I expect, with only some
> fairly rudimentary evidence that 2020 will be much like 1932.
>
> Canada will probably enjoy warm times in this time period around 2020
> (i.e fairly warm winters).
>
> Apparently there are reports of a fairly dry winter in the midwest
> USA. People in the Mississippi
> River Region are also reporting low River Water Levels.
>
> Clearly the Earth's Ice Caps melt and re-solidify each year, depending
> on whether the season is
> winter or Summer. I suspect around 2020 that the Earth's Ice Caps will
> re-solidify more and more
> as time goes on (especially with respect to recent times). The various
> Earth periodic solar and thermal
> cycles will continue onward and repeat.
>
> As for any superimposed global warming signature, due to human causes,
> well that has already been
> discussed here. Various people have various opinions. Data taken over
> the next 5 to 10 years
> should resolve this question a bit.
>
> We made it through December 21, 2012. Whew!!! Mayan Tourism is
> booming, apparently.
>> From what I've heard on various Mayan Calendar TV shows, the Mayan Calendar
> was computed for
> a full 26,000 years???? That seems to coincide with value of the main
> Precession Period --- 26,000
> years. Maybe whoever was doing the computing, decided, with the crude
> computing tools they had
> at hand, that doing the calculation for one full Precession Period was good
> enough. Works for me.
>
> As for highly enriched reactors, if the placement of more than a few
> humans around a reactor
> causes it to go critical, then one needs to bring the enrichment down a
> bit??? Thanks for posting
> about such research projects way back when.
>
> Regards, Joe Preisig
>
> PS If you live by the Mississippi River, and the water levels are going
> down, I'm sure one can find all
> kinds of neat things on the exposed river bottom --- archeological
> finds, guns which have been
> tossed in the river, cell phones, wedding and/or engagement rings
> and so on. Good hunting.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 23:43:06 -0700
From: Dan McCarn <hotgreenchile at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Drought
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Hi Joe:
Years ago, I did a flood-frequency & magnitude study of a desert stream,
the Purgatoire River, in SE Colorado. The Purgatoire flows east from the
Sangre de Cristo Mountains near Trinidad and then turns NE and forms a
deep, 1000 ft canyon. The Purgatoire (Picketwire) flows into the Arkansas
River.
I noticed a very well correlated trend in the water levels recorded from
about 1910 through 1977. The frequency of events above "base level" was at
a minimum during solar maximum and a maximum at solar minimum over 4 or 5
solar cycles. These reflected storm events causing runoff. I've only
recently understood the reason behind this periodicity; about increased
cloud formation when Fe-cosmic rays penetrate the upper atmosphere and for
vapor tracks. The cosmic rays are more abundant during solar minimums.
The last two major floods on the Purgatoire coincided approximately with
solar minimums (1955 and 1965).
Report No. USACE-ABQ-2010-003, Prepared by Gregory D. Everhart for the U.S.
Army Corps of Engineers, Albuquerque, (USACE). July 13, 2010
P. 34 "Trinidad has been devastated by floods since the time that people
started living in the area. Heavy flooding was reported in the years of
1866, 1883, 1886,while major flooding occurred in 1921, 1925, 1929, and
1934, 1955, and 1965, and disastrous floods in 1904 and 1942. " With
continued efforts of politicians, local leaders, and the public in general,
a project study for the solution of the problems at Trinidad was included
in the Flood Control Act of 1936."
We are close to Solar Maximum, so I would expect rainfall events to be less
than the norm. You mentioned what appears to be a multidecadal oscillation
of climate. This has been recorded directly and with dendro-chronological
data (tree ring data) that support this as well.
Dan ii
Dan W McCarn, Geologist
108 Sherwood Blvd
Los Alamos, NM 87544-3425
+1-505-672-2014 (Home ? New Mexico)
+1-505-670-8123 (Mobile - New Mexico)
HotGreenChile at gmail.com (Private email) HotGreenChile at gmail dot com
On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM, <JPreisig at aol.com> wrote:
> Dear Radsafe:
>
> Hey All. OT----
>
> Hope you all are well. I expect the drought in the USA (and Northern
> Hemisphere???) (and World???)
> will extend mostly in the time range 2020 +/- 6 years or so. Earth polar
> motion peaks (times of extremely
> warm summers and extremely cold winters) were in 1910, 1954, 1998, (2042).
> The in between
> Earth polar motion (i.e. Chandler Wobble(s) and Annual Wobble) times are
> 1932, 1976, 2020 etc.
> You may recall the Dust Storms (Central USA) in 1932. See Ken Burns'
> Documentary on these hard
> times. I personally do not recall conditions of drought in 1976 or
> thereabouts. I expect, with only some
> fairly rudimentary evidence that 2020 will be much like 1932.
>
> Canada will probably enjoy warm times in this time period around 2020
> (i.e fairly warm winters).
>
> Apparently there are reports of a fairly dry winter in the midwest
> USA. People in the Mississippi
> River Region are also reporting low River Water Levels.
>
> Clearly the Earth's Ice Caps melt and re-solidify each year, depending
> on whether the season is
> winter or Summer. I suspect around 2020 that the Earth's Ice Caps will
> re-solidify more and more
> as time goes on (especially with respect to recent times). The various
> Earth periodic solar and thermal
> cycles will continue onward and repeat.
>
> As for any superimposed global warming signature, due to human causes,
> well that has already been
> discussed here. Various people have various opinions. Data taken over
> the next 5 to 10 years
> should resolve this question a bit.
>
> We made it through December 21, 2012. Whew!!! Mayan Tourism is
> booming, apparently.
> From what I've heard on various Mayan Calendar TV shows, the Mayan Calendar
> was computed for
> a full 26,000 years???? That seems to coincide with value of the main
> Precession Period --- 26,000
> years. Maybe whoever was doing the computing, decided, with the crude
> computing tools they had
> at hand, that doing the calculation for one full Precession Period was good
> enough. Works for me.
>
> As for highly enriched reactors, if the placement of more than a few
> humans around a reactor
> causes it to go critical, then one needs to bring the enrichment down a
> bit??? Thanks for posting
> about such research projects way back when.
>
> Regards, Joe Preisig
>
> PS If you live by the Mississippi River, and the water levels are going
> down, I'm sure one can find all
> kinds of neat things on the exposed river bottom --- archeological
> finds, guns which have been
> tossed in the river, cell phones, wedding and/or engagement rings
> and so on. Good hunting.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 07:44:33 -0000
From: "Fred BY" <fd003f0606 at blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [ RadSafe ] nazi dirty bomb and New York
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Daily Mail reports :-
Nazis secretly developed plot to drop radioactive bomb on New York from
supersonic space rocket
Nazi chief Hermann Goering plotted to attack New York in a bizarre plot
involving a manned space rocket dropping a dirty bomb over the Manhattan
skyline.
Vying for Hitler's attention, the head of the German air-force, Hermann
Goering, set up a lab and a team of leading scientists to explore the
possibility of the radioactive attack on American soil.
Goering read the work of maverick Austrian engineer, Eugen Saenger and
particularly his belief that a space plane could be built.
continues at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2256953/Nazis-secretly-developed-plo
t-drop-radioactive-bomb-New-York-supersonic-space-rocket.html?ito=feeds-news
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