[ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima radiation, on sale in Japan

[Doug Aitken]

Helmut:
I do not work in the Nuclear industry, but in the other monster: the oil industry.
However, I try and take a rational view, based on overall risk-benefit (I am a HSE specialist).
And unfortunately, your comments seem to fail to do just what you ask the RADSAFE group to do: view things from both sides.

You mention two incidents: Fukushima and Chernobyl. But you fail to mention there is a stark difference between the two. Chernobyl was triggered by pure human error (no discussion, no excuses). Fukushima was triggered by the worst Tsunami in modern history. There is no doubt that the Fukushima installation could have been better designed (with the emergency generators in a safer position) and we will probably never fully understand if the response could have been better (but the efforts of the actual plant operators and emergency crews was admirable, even when the management seemed to be less than prepared). But, IMHO, the problems of nuclear contamination from Fukushima pale in comparison to the chemical pollution throughout the regions of the country (which seems to be little discussed...). And the majority of deaths in the aftermath were due to unnecessary displacement of large numbers of people (just as in Chernobyl!) rather than radiological effects.

And let's not forget that coal powered generation creates more radioactive waste than nuclear.....

Regards
Doug
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As for the overall safety and environmental record of nuclear power vs other power generating methods, why do you not make a rational analysis og coal fired power stations around the world? Does the coal industry (from mining to disposal) not cause on average more human deaths and pollution (ground and atmospheric) in one year than the entire nuclear industry since its inception?
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From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Helmut Wabnig
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:42 AM
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima radiation, on sale in Japan

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:43:55 -0700, you wrote:

>Somehow, I doubt that this is your real name.  Most of the people on 
>RADSAFE use real names and reveal who they are.  You seem to be a 
>hateful anti-nuke who is probably hiding in the shadows.  Care to prove me wrong?
>I look forward to learning more about who you really are because you 
>clearly are no scientist nor anyone with any real understanding of the 
>underlying science.
>

That RADSAFE forum is the home of nuclear professionals.
Being a professional does not mean to understand things.
When I am on the payroll of the nuclear industry I have to sing with their choir or I am gone. Understanding is very limited then.

There is no excuse for the Chernobyl and Fukushima desasters and for all those smaller incidents before.
The cause is human failure, in Fukushima and Chernobyl for sure, and the humans who failed were the nuclear scientist specialists.
Don't blame it on anybody else.
I hope that you understand, where the limit of understanding the underlying scene is really located.

As for my person, only because you are asking, I have been working in nuclear power plants and radiation safety for a while before I went into computer maintenance. I know the business from inside.

There is no such thing as a safe nuclear reactor.
There is no such thing as a safe nuclear waste.

I wonder why RADSAFE should not view things from both sides.
w.
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