[ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima radiation, on sale in Japan

[Franz Schönhofer]

2013/5/4 Doug Aitken <JAitken at slb.com>

> Helmut:
> I do not work in the Nuclear industry, but in the other monster: the oil
> industry.
> However, I try and take a rational view, based on overall risk-benefit (I
> am a HSE specialist).
> And unfortunately, your comments seem to fail to do just what you ask the
> RADSAFE group to do: view things from both sides.
>
> You mention two incidents: Fukushima and Chernobyl. But you fail to
> mention there is a stark difference between the two. Chernobyl was
> triggered by pure human error (no discussion, no excuses). Fukushima was
> triggered by the worst Tsunami in modern history. There is no doubt that
> the Fukushima installation could have been better designed (with the
> emergency generators in a safer position) and we will probably never fully
> understand if the response could have been better (but the efforts of the
> actual plant operators and emergency crews was admirable, even when the
> management seemed to be less than prepared). But, IMHO, the problems of
> nuclear contamination from Fukushima pale in comparison to the chemical
> pollution throughout the regions of the country (which seems to be little
> discussed...). And the majority of deaths in the aftermath were due to
> unnecessary displacement of large numbers of people (just as in Chernobyl!)
> rather than radiological effects.
>
> And let's not forget that coal powered generation creates more radioactive
> waste than nuclear.....
>
> Regards
> Doug
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> Doug Aitken
> QHSE Advisor, Schlumberger D&M Operations Support
> Cell Phone: 713-562-8585
> RADSAFErs,
> DON'T FEED THIS TROLL!!!!!!
> He never has worked anything with radiationprotection or nuclear, so he is
> a liar. His most scientific work was according to google the replacement of
> the batteries of a HP41 handheld calculator.
>
>
> (alternate e-mail: doug.aitken at slb.com )
> Mail:
> Schlumberger, Drilling & Measurements HQ,
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
> Sugar Land, Texas 77478
>
>
>
> As for the overall safety and environmental record of nuclear power vs
> other power generating methods, why do you not make a rational analysis og
> coal fired power stations around the world? Does the coal industry (from
> mining to disposal) not cause on average more human deaths and pollution
> (ground and atmospheric) in one year than the entire nuclear industry since
> its inception?
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Helmut Wabnig
> Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:42 AM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima
> radiation, on sale in Japan
>
> On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:43:55 -0700, you wrote:
>
> >Somehow, I doubt that this is your real name.  Most of the people on
> >RADSAFE use real names and reveal who they are.  You seem to be a
> >hateful anti-nuke who is probably hiding in the shadows.  Care to prove
> me wrong?
> >I look forward to learning more about who you really are because you
> >clearly are no scientist nor anyone with any real understanding of the
> >underlying science.
> >
>
> That RADSAFE forum is the home of nuclear professionals.
> Being a professional does not mean to understand things.
> When I am on the payroll of the nuclear industry I have to sing with their
> choir or I am gone. Understanding is very limited then.
>
> There is no excuse for the Chernobyl and Fukushima desasters and for all
> those smaller incidents before.
> The cause is human failure, in Fukushima and Chernobyl for sure, and the
> humans who failed were the nuclear scientist specialists.
> Don't blame it on anybody else.
> I hope that you understand, where the limit of understanding the
> underlying scene is really located.
>
> As for my person, only because you are asking, I have been working in
> nuclear power plants and radiation safety for a while before I went into
> computer maintenance. I know the business from inside.
>
> There is no such thing as a safe nuclear reactor.
> There is no such thing as a safe nuclear waste.
>
> I wonder why RADSAFE should not view things from both sides.
> w.
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