[ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima radiation, on sale in Japan

Franz Schönhofer franz.schoenhofer at chello.at
Sun May 5 09:37:22 CDT 2013


Don't feed the troll Helmut!!!! I have problems sending mails so I hope to 
be able to explain later in detail. In the mean time you might google his 
name. Even somebody not speaking German should be able to detect that his 
scientific merit is the replacement of batteries in a HP41 hand held 
calculator.

This troll is much worse than the world famous raman-spectroscopist. His 
scientific level is many orders of magnitude lower or  better said: non 
existing. For him: It is even lower than the Austrian boulevard paper 
Kronenzeitung. He should be removed immediately from the RADSAFE list!

Franz


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Doug Aitken
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:45 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima 
radiation, on sale in Japan

Helmut:
I do not work in the Nuclear industry, but in the other monster: the oil 
industry.
However, I try and take a rational view, based on overall risk-benefit (I am 
a HSE specialist)ing.
And unfortunately, your comments seem to fail to do just what you ask the 
RADSAFE group to do: view things from both sides.
As for the overall safety and environmental record of nuclear power vs other 
power generating methods, why do you not make a rational analysis og coal 
fired power stations around the world? Does the coal industry (from mining 
to disposal) not cause on average more human deaths and pollution (ground 
and atmospheric) in one year than the entire nuclear industry since its 
inception?
-----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu 
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Helmut Wabnig
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:42 AM
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Tomatoes, deformed by Fukushima 
radiation, on sale in Japan

On Sat, 4 May 2013 04:43:55 -0700, you wrote:

>Somehow, I doubt that this is your real name.  Most of the people on
>RADSAFE use real names and reveal who they are.  You seem to be a
>hateful anti-nuke who is probably hiding in the shadows.  Care to prove me 
>wrong?
>I look forward to learning more about who you really are because you
>clearly are no scientist nor anyone with any real understanding of the
>underlying science.
>

That RADSAFE forum is the home of nuclear professionals.
Being a professional does not mean to understand things.
When I am on the payroll of the nuclear industry I have to sing with their 
choir or I am gone. Understanding is very limited then.

There is no excuse for the Chernobyl and Fukushima desasters and for all 
those smaller incidents before.
The cause is human failure, in Fukushima and Chernobyl for sure, and the 
humans who failed were the nuclear scientist specialists.
Don't blame it on anybody else.
I hope that you understand, where the limit of understanding the underlying 
scene is really located.

As for my person, only because you are asking, I have been working in 
nuclear power plants and radiation safety for a while before I went into 
computer maintenance. I know the business from inside.

There is no such thing as a safe nuclear reactor.
There is no such thing as a safe nuclear waste.

I wonder why RADSAFE should not view things from both sides.
w.
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