[ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

Tue Aug 19 14:11:17 CDT 2014

Hi Ted,

Your note, I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and
their
systems”. I was referring to the fact that all of the systems who reject
list servers, or don’t allow including their affiliation, that is a problem
that is not a Radsafe problem. If these individuals have an issue with their
employer, they could become a member using their personal e-mail and read or
write to their heart’s content. For Radsafe to consider shutting down
because a significant number of members are losing their access (recently
the NRC) would be a serious void to those of us who have been on Radsafe for
a long time, and, the excellent information that is provided. I have been a
member for a very long time, but not as long as you!

I am impressed that you have all of the posts!!!

Regards,

Sandy
Retired, Consultant

From:  Ted de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com>
Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Date:  Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 12:03 PM
To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
<radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list

I was going to resist chiming in here BUT ...

Having been with RADSAFE since day 1 as a BBS - I like it and I also
enjoy the diversions which are most usually technical in nature and
illuminating of the personalities of the posters.  When they are not AND
don't interest me - I can always skip to the next message (I never
delete a RADSAFE message and have them ALL archived since listserver
days began - thought I had the BBS ones too - but can't find them).

I never thought of it as a source that was REQUIRED to provide free
professional consultation (don't the CHPs have some sort of resource to
serve that purpose) and have always appreciated the help kindly and
freely given when solicited.  I see it as more of a community than a
resource and feel as if I have almost gotten to know many people whom I
have never met.

The moderation has been light handed and therefore GREAT and very
appreciated - ESPECIALLY considering these legal trials and tribulations
they have had to put up with and which we have never known about until
just now!  I can't imagine how hard it must be to convince an
organization to continue to host it!

I don't understand "it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their
systems".

I am consulting a friend who is VERY expert in the web and listservers
so see if he can offer a solution to this obnoxious new protocol.
Hopefully we find some way to keep it all working.

Ted de Castro

On 8/19/2014 11:11 AM, Dan McCarn wrote:
>  Dear Group:
> 
>  My 2 cents as well: I enjoy the ad hoc nature of RADSAFE even when the
>  topics get a little odd.  That said, I've not noticed too much piling on
>  after a thread is exhausted.  And when I do, it's easy enough to dismiss
>  them.  I think the level of moderation is adequate for the group.  Jeff has
>  stepped-in on occasion, but otherwise has left the floor open for
>  discussion.
> 
>  Best!
> 
>  Dan ii
> 
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> 
>  On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu> wrote:
> 
>>  Hi Sandy,
>> 
>>  Thanks, I guess that is one way to look at it. I hadn't been thinking
>>  about it like that.
>> 
>>  Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>  On Aug 19, 2014, at 11:55 AM, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>>  As we all agree that Radsafe is worthwhile, the issue isn¹t with IIT or
>>>  Radsafe, it¹s the issue with the other individuals and their systems.
>>> 
>>>  Regards,
>>> 
>>>  Sandy
>>>  Retired, Consultant
>>> 
>>>  From:  Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>  Reply-To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics)
>>  Mailing
>>>  List" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>  Date:  Tuesday, August 19, 2014 at 9:39 AM
>>>  To:  "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>  List"
>>>  <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>  Subject:  Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>> 
>>>  I agree that RADSAFE is very worthwhile. My concern is that we are losing
>>>  about 125-150 people per month as more groups start following the DMARC
>>>  email standard.
>>> 
>>>  Jeff
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:39 AM, "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)"
>>>  <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  I believe that RADSAFE is very worthwhile.  It has given me the chance
>>  to see
>>>>  knowledgeable people discuss parts of the rad biz that I don't have much
>>>>  experience with.  It has encouraged me to think about some of the
>>  nuances that
>>>>  have improved my understanding of the Big Picture.  It has offered me a
>>  place
>>>>  where I can offer the odd bit of radiation related humor that my wife
>>  doesn't
>>>>  get.  I sincerely hope it continues.
>>>> 
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>  From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>  [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy Perle
>>>>  Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 7:08 AM
>>>>  To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>>>>  Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>> 
>>>>  Many of those on the list aren't posting anyway, they lurk. John is
>>  correct
>>>>  that Radsafe has served it's function well and should continue, even
>>  with less
>>>>  membership.
>>>> 
>>>>  If someone won 't provide the required info, delete them from the list.
>>>> 
>>>>  Regards,
>>>> 
>>>>  Sandy
>>>>  Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>  On Aug 19, 2014, at 6:52 AM, JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  The RADSAFE list server has been a big help for rad monitor related
>>>>>  issues (among other things). While ivory tower thoughts are great,
>>>>>  nothing beats real experience.  Since we're losing "experienced"
>>>>>  people due to retirement, it seems that, as long as they're still
>>>>>  willing to respond to posted questions, it qualifies as one of the
>>>>>  best industry 'knowledge transfer processes'.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  - -jmr
>>>>> 
>>>>>  John Rich
>>>>>  312-269-3768
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  From:   Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>>>  To:     The International Radiation Protection Mailing List
>>>>>  <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>>>  Date:   08/17/2014 12:43 PM
>>>>>  Subject:        [ RadSafe ] Anyone want to take over the list
>>>>>  Sent by:        radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi All,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  We lost everyone from the NRC off the list today.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  We are not allowed by the University legal department to take
>>>>>  responsibility for all list posts by allowing anonymous posting. This
>>>>>  is the only current solution to blocking of listerservers by some of
>>>>>  the major internet service providers.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  If someone else would like to take over the list and run it using that
>>>>>  method, I would be happy to pass the running of the list along.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Otherwise, given the steady decline of membership, it may be time to
>>>>>  just end the list.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Sorry but I don't see another practical solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Let me know what you think,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Jeff
>>>>> 
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