[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1736, Issue 2
JPreisig at aol.com
JPreisig at aol.com
Fri Dec 5 13:05:20 CST 2014
The long term climate stuff is clearly real. Don't compare it with
the short term phenomena we are struggling with now. It all must fit
together to compute what we are seeing.
I won't disparage climate experts at Goddard or elsewhere. I'm
thinking of emailing Chopo Ma (NASA GSFC VLBI Group) so he can sit down with
Ms.Parkinson (NASA Goddard) and others, so they can hear what the wobbles etc.
In a message dated 12/5/2014 1:33:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tony.harrison at state.co.us writes:
Sorry Joe, but a number of actual climate experts disagree with you:
"In July, Mr. Stockman spent a couple of hours at NASA’s Goddard Space
Flight Center listening to presentations about earth science and climate
change. The subject of ice ages came up. Mr. Stockman asked, “How can your
models predict the climate when no one can tell me what causes the ice
I responded that, actually, the science community understood very well what
takes the earth into and out of ice ages. A Serbian mathematician, Milutin
Milankovitch, worked out the theory during the early years of the 20th
century. He calculated by hand that variations in the earth’s tilt and the
shape of its orbit around the sun start and end ice ages. I said that you
could think of ice ages as resulting from wobbles in the earth’s tilt and
The time scales involved are on the order of tens of thousands to hundreds
of thousands of years. I explained that this science has been well tested
against the fossil record and is broadly accepted. I added that we don’t
normally include these factors in 100-year climate projections because the
effects are too tiny to be important on such a short time-scale."
"Things, however, are beginning to change — and change faster than anyone
anticipated, according to a new study published
the Geophysical Research Letters. Despite its formidable lineage, the
Amundsen Sea is widely recognized as the weakest link in the West
Antarctic’s splintering chain of ice sheets. But only now is it becoming
clear just how fast change is coming.
There, the melting rate tripled in the past decade. Since 1992, the
researchers found, the loss rate accelerated by 6.1 gigatons per year.
Between 2003 and 2009, that rate nearly tripled to 16.3 gigatons per year.
That surge in the melt rate, according
scientists at the University of California at Irvine, means the region, in
the past 21 years, shed a Mount Everest-sized amount of ice every two
“The mass loss of these glaciers is increasing at an amazing rate,”
Isabella Velicogna, the paper’s author, said in a statement
With sea level steadily rising in locations like Miami, connecting the dots
back to glacial melt has become a vital endeavor, she added. “It’s
that we maintain this [observing] network to continue monitoring the
changes,” she said. “Because the changes are proceeding very fast.”
Oh well, back to radiation safety work.
*Tony Harrison, MSPH*
P 303-692-3046 | F 303-691-4069
8100 Lowry Blvd. Denver, CO 80230
tony.harrison at state.co.us | colorado.gov/cdphe
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:18:15 -0500
> From: JPreisig at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] 10 warmest years on record
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Message-ID: <6eb0e.6744d74b.41b342d7 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> Our ability to measure global temperatures is quite good right now.
> Wonder if the temperature increases can be plotted versus the global
> population. Is there a close correlation??? Plot both parameters
> time. No wonder it is getting warmer, plus possible oil, coal, natural
> Still, in 1976 it was global cooling. 1998 is a significant global
> warming date. By 2020 it will be global cooling again. This is
> to the sum and difference frequencies of the Earth wobbles (Annual
> Chandler Wobble 1, Chandler Wobble 2). I've explained all this in the
> Radsafe archives. The relevant wobble period is something like 44
> to 2020).
> Right now California and other parts of the USA are entering a
> period similar to the decade-long Dust Bowl drought (around 1932-1934).
> Can't compute the severity of the event right now. Team USA could. The
> drought should last about 12 years. Conserve water, farm
> fewer cattle??? and try to get through it.
> For the next 4 weeks it is earthquake season (Winter Solstice)
> Possibly 1 or 2 large magnitude earthquakes. There's a major
> typhoon/cyclone in the Phillipines right now. This might trigger some
> Joe Preisig
> In a message dated 12/5/2014 9:24:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> Peter.Sandgren at ct.gov writes:
> No agenda here - just relaying what has been reported:
> It?s official: 2013 is tied with 2003 as the fourth warmest year for
> Planet Earth since modern record-keeping began more than 130 years ago.
> The mean
> global temperature rose 1.12?F above the 20th century average. That means
> the 10 warmest years on record have all happened since 1998, with 2010
> on top as the warmest of all. The only year in the entire 20th century
> that was warmer than 2013, and the only one remaining in the top 10, was
> This also marks the 37th straight year where the global temperature was
> above the long term average.
> (Google News) US, British data show 2014 could be hottest year on
> P. SANDGREN
> CT DESPP - DEMHS
> RAD EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS
> 25 SIGOURNEY ST., HARTFORD, CT
> On 11/24/2014 12:49 PM, JPreisig at aol.com wrote:
> > Radsafe,
> > See google news --- antarctic sea ice .
> > Not only is there more Antarctic Ice, but it is also now
> > as determined by underwater robotic vessels.
> > So much for global warming????
> > Joe Preisig
You are currently subscribed to the RadSafe mailing list
Before posting a message to RadSafe be sure to have read and understood
the RadSafe rules. These can be found at:
For information on how to subscribe or unsubscribe and other settings
More information about the RadSafe