[ RadSafe ] Treating Coal-fired plant waste as TENORM
JPreisig at aol.com
JPreisig at aol.com
Mon Dec 15 19:32:55 CST 2014
Radsafe,
That is one book. The book I sort of remember was called Controlled
Test Atmospheres and it was published by the University of Michigan???
Joe Preisig
In a message dated 12/15/2014 8:22:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bsdnuke at gmail.com writes:
The book was Particle Size Analysis and Industrial Hygiene. I believe it
was edited by Mel First. (sorry if I misspelled names).
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Franz Schönhofer <
franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
>
> RADSAFErs,
>
> I enjoyed this thread, because it reminds me on the good old times of
> RADSAFE with its lively discussions, with all the pros and cons on
> scientific (!!!) topics ...... I enjoyed it especially because it -
> hopefully - ends the forwarding of messages of clearly mentally ill
> persons. I also see from the contributions the knowledge on those topics
> which had been rather new several decades ago. Nice to see the progress!
> Forgive me if I forward old fashioned opinions in the future (some might
> not be all to old fashioned.)
>
> Franz
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 10:28 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Treating Coal-fired plant waste as TENORM
>
> Mike Brennan,
>
> I don't do stack measurements professionally. I expect such
> measurements are done across the top of a stack, at various distances
> across the
> stack. I believe there are also places along the stack where sampling
> ports
> can be opened and more sampling can be done. Various computer codes
> (Airdose, CAP-88 etc.) can be gotten from RSICC (Radiation Shielding
Info
> Center)
> at Oak Ridge. See their website. Coal, Oil, Natural Gas etc. will
> eventually diminish. If there are not enough Nuclear Fission plants,
> life will
> not be good.
> I enjoy your posts, Mike.
>
> Regards, Joe Preisig
>
>
> In a message dated 12/9/2014 1:16:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>
> Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV writes:
>
> I've had some classes on air sampling, and have been involved in
> environmental air sampling and radon for some years. I admit that I am
> not highly
> confident that sampling from the edge of a stack meters is truly
> representative, especially concerning a noble gas. I also admit to
> having doubts as
> to how well most dispersion models handle such a gas. In any event,
> pulling the contribution from a particular stack to outdoor radon would
> be a
> challenge, given the flux of radon coming out of the ground (a flux that
> varies
> nonlinearly both over time and across locations). Knowing that it
happens
> is useful for pointing out the inconsistencies of the anti-nuke side,
but
> should a coal-burning plant ever reach the point where radon is the
> biggest
> risk factor in its emissions, they would truly be "clean coal".
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 5:07 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Treating Coal-fired plant waste as TENORM
>
> Radsafe,
>
> Ever hear of a Pitot tube??? Find books on Air Sampling and Analysis.
> Man, this takes me back to my Air Sampling and Analysis course with Ray
> Manganelli and Jill Lipoti at Rutgers. Can't even remember what the
book
> was called, but it was good reading. Frank Haughey made me take Air
> Sampling instead of Mathematical Physics.
>
> EPA documents must be loaded with information (see their websites
also)
> on how to measure Radon and how to grab samples. The carbon absorber
> test
> kits were around New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection.
The
> Reading Prong (geologically speaking) is right next to New Jersey.
> People
> in Pennsylvania still test for Radon in their homes and need to. You
can
> measure stack effluents with a pitot tube, provided you make the
> measurements correctly. Search the internet, baby. It is all out
> there.
>
> Regards, Joe Preisig
>
> PS Perhaps also check the New Jersey Department of Environmental
> Protection (Radiation Protection Programs) website and the archives
there.
> NJDEP RPP still has a Radon group, I think, and you could call or email
> them,
> if needed. NJDEP RPP was a nice place to work. Some NJDEP RPP folks
> lurk
> on Radsafe, I think. Hi Herb!!!!
>
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