[ RadSafe ] Legacy school rad materials disposal

Roy Parker radmail at cox.net
Sat Feb 1 13:00:05 CST 2014


Radioactive material package(s) exempt for transportation purposes, 
meaning they are not Class 7 Radioactive, must meet only one of the 
below criteria, exempt concentration of radioactive material or exempt 
consignment of radioactive, not both criteria.

Roy A. Parker, Ph.D.
Radiation Physics Consultant

On 1/26/2014 10:47 AM, Dan McCarn wrote:
> Dear Thomas:
>
> The definition of "radioactive materials" is a 2-part test (DOT, IAEA,
> IATA):
>
> 1) The concentration must exceed a limit
> AND
> 2) The total activity must exceed a limit.
>
> I seriously doubt that these meet either requirement, much less both.
> Therefore, they are not "radioactive materials".
>
> My understanding is that they could simply be disposed of directly in the
> garbage.
>
> Dan ii
>
> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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>
> On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Papura <trpapura at gw.dec.state.ny.us
>> wrote:
>> I am trying to help out a couple local schools. They have some legacy
>> radioactive sources, and among them are the kits as seen on Paul Frame's
>> website:
>>
>> http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/Miscellaneous/plasticboxeseduquip.htm
>>
>> The least expensive quote we obtained from brokers was $225 per box. One
>> school has 40 plus and the other 20 plus. This is a considerable expense.
>>
>> My question is this? Most brokers want to charge ludicrous amounts of
>> money to dispose of them due to the Nitrate content and subsequent
>> concerns. Considering the trivial amounts of Uranium and Thorium present, I
>> would imagine they are exempt from regulation but was wondering if anyone
>> knows for sure how they were distributed? Were they sold as exempt?
>> Generally licensed? If so, perhaps they could be solidified in concrete and
>> disposed of without regard to their rad content?
>>
>> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thomas Papura
>> Environmental Radiation Specialist II
>> Radiological Sites Section
>> Contaminated Sites Group Leader
>> NYSDEC
>> 625 Broadway
>> 12th Floor
>> Albany, NY 12233
>> (518) 402-8783
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