[ RadSafe ] Legacy school rad materials disposal

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Nope, must meet both criteria to be considered as a DOT regulated class 7  
(radioactive material).
 
From 173.403:
 
Radioactive material means any material
containing radionuclides  where
both the activity concentration and
the total  activity in the consignment
exceed the values specified in the table
in §  173.436 or values derived according
to the instructions in § 173.433
 
Wes
 
 
In a message dated 2/1/2014 11:00:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
radmail at cox.net writes:

Radioactive material package(s) exempt for transportation purposes,  
meaning they are not Class 7 Radioactive, must meet only one of the  
below criteria, exempt concentration of radioactive material or exempt  
consignment of radioactive, not both criteria.

Roy A. Parker,  Ph.D.
Radiation Physics Consultant

On 1/26/2014 10:47 AM, Dan McCarn  wrote:
> Dear Thomas:
>
> The definition of "radioactive  materials" is a 2-part test (DOT, IAEA,
> IATA):
>
> 1) The  concentration must exceed a limit
> AND
> 2) The total activity  must exceed a limit.
>
> I seriously doubt that these meet either  requirement, much less both.
> Therefore, they are not "radioactive  materials".
>
> My understanding is that they could simply be  disposed of directly in the
> garbage.
>
> Dan  ii
>
> Dan W McCarn, Geologist
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>
> On Thu, Jan 23,  2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Papura 
<trpapura at gw.dec.state.ny.us
>>  wrote:
>> I am trying to help out a couple local schools. They have  some legacy
>> radioactive sources, and among them are the kits as  seen on Paul Frame's
>> website:
>>
>>  http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/Miscellaneous/plasticboxeseduquip.htm
>>
>>  The least expensive quote we obtained from brokers was $225 per box.  
One
>> school has 40 plus and the other 20 plus. This is a  considerable 
expense.
>>
>> My question is this? Most  brokers want to charge ludicrous amounts of
>> money to dispose of  them due to the Nitrate content and subsequent
>> concerns.  Considering the trivial amounts of Uranium and Thorium 
present, I
>>  would imagine they are exempt from regulation but was wondering if  
anyone
>> knows for sure how they were distributed? Were they sold as  exempt?
>> Generally licensed? If so, perhaps they could be  solidified in concrete 
and
>> disposed of without regard to their rad  content?
>>
>> Any assistance would be  appreciated.
>>
>>  Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Thomas Papura
>> Environmental Radiation Specialist II
>>  Radiological Sites Section
>> Contaminated Sites Group  Leader
>> NYSDEC
>> 625 Broadway
>> 12th  Floor
>> Albany, NY 12233
>> (518) 402-8783
>> FAX  (518) 402-9024
>>
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