[ RadSafe ] Claim that Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence

Fri Feb 7 08:55:36 CST 2014

I thought the fingerprint of cancer identified in the present instance is applicable only on accumulation of I-131 leading to structural changes in specific regions of the Chromosome.

Regards
Parthasarathy

On Friday, 7 February 2014, 20:17, "KARAM, PHILIP" <PHILIP.KARAM at nypd.org> wrote:

In addition, unless a test can differentiate between natural radiation, medical radiation, and radiation from a nuclear power plant then there's still not much to go on. 

Say I were to get cancer (hypothetical only - I am perfectly healthy!) and a test shows that the cancer is radiogenic. Well, over my lifetime I've picked up about 150 mSv of background radiation, about 20 mSv of occupational radiation, at least 500 mSv of medical radiation, and several mSv of radiation from flying. I can't see how a test showing that radiation damage caused the cancer could lead to the conclusion that the particular radiation that caused the particular genetic damage in question came from occupational exposure rather than one of the other sources.

Andy

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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Claim that Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence

Roger et al.:   Please note that the PNAS article analyses patients exposed
to high thyroid doses.  McPherson's claim has no basis  re low doses.  Best,
Ludwig

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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Roger Helbig
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cancer-causer, by DNA evidence

Is this legitimate research in a legitimate journal or yet another example
of the perversion of what once was perhaps known as a journal that reported
genuine scientific accomplishment.  MacPherson is in especially great form
these past couple of days.  If anyone from Australia on this list knows this
woman, it is time that she is fully exposed along with whoever has funded
her endless stream of "not nuclear-news".

Roger Helbig

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Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM
Subject: [New post] Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer,
by DNA evidence
To: rwhelbig at gmail.com

Christina MacPherson posted: "DNA Evidence Can Now Prove Link Between
Cancers And Fukushima Radiation, What if there were a way to establish a
direct and provable in court link between cancer and Fukushima radiation?
...... Hess, J. et al Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid"
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New post on nuclear-news

Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence

by Christina MacPherson

DNA Evidence Can Now Prove Link Between Cancers And Fukushima Radiation,
What if there were a way to establish a direct and provable in court link
between cancer and Fukushima radiation? ......

Hess, J. et al Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid carcinomas
of young patients is associated with exposure to low-dose irradiation.
Proceeding of the National Academy of Sciences USA (PNAS); Link to
publication "Scientists have been able to discriminate between the cancers
caused by the radioactive contamination and those that arise naturally.
Prof.
Zitzelsberger ascribes the success of this study to the careful collection,
documentation and storage of thyroid cancers from the Chernobyl region in
the Chernobyl Tissue Bank. He noted that this unique collection of materials
made it possible for the team to compare for the first time tumours from
children of the same age and regional background.
http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/News/Feeds/2011/05/sections-internationa
l-news-fingerprint-of-radiation-exposure-discovered-in-th/
via Fred Davis Invites Welcome
Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid carcinomas of young
patients is associated with exposure to low-dose irradiation
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/18/1017137108.abstract
This DNA marker is quite possibly the nuclear industry's worst nightmare.
Any medical professional or lawyer team around the world can now order a DNA
test and have the cancer tissue analyzed to see if it was caused by
Fukushima or Chernobyl, or Santa Susana, or Three Mile Island radioactive
elements, each of which have a unique 'signature', just like people have
fingerprints.  ......
Since the nuclear industry in many countries has a legal immunity from
lawsuits, a recent class action to try and get this changed may open things
up on a larger front. Wouldn't you agree that a company that can harm or
kill millions of people should not be immune from lawsuits?
via MamaBears AgainstNukes "The lawyers for the 1.415 plaintiffs stated that
they have filed a lawsuit at the Tokyo District Court, describing the case
as a landmark challenge to nuclear power plant manufacturers immunity from
liability in nuclear accidents."
http://nsnbc.me/2014/01/30/fukushima-landmark-lawsuit-filed-general-electric
-toshiba-hitachi/
Christina MacPherson | February 7, 2014 at 6:19 am | URL:
http://wp.me/phgse-gnp

http://nuclear-news.net/2014/02/07/courts-will-be-able-to-prove-radiation-as
-cancer-causer-by-dna-evidence/
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