[ RadSafe ] Claim that Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence

Fri Feb 7 16:28:59 CST 2014

It would be interesting to get comments on this from REACTS (
http://orise.orau.gov/reacts/) in Oak Ridge. Is anyone there a member of
this forum?

Best Regards,

Hans

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On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:55 AM, parthasarathy k s <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> I thought the fingerprint of cancer identified in the present instance is
> applicable only on accumulation of I-131 leading to structural changes in
> specific regions of the Chromosome.
>
> Regards
> Parthasarathy
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 7 February 2014, 20:17, "KARAM, PHILIP" <PHILIP.KARAM at nypd.org>
> wrote:
>
> In addition, unless a test can differentiate between natural radiation,
> medical radiation, and radiation from a nuclear power plant then there's
> still not much to go on.
>
> Say I were to get cancer (hypothetical only - I am perfectly healthy!) and
> a test shows that the cancer is radiogenic. Well, over my lifetime I've
> picked up about 150 mSv of background radiation, about 20 mSv of
> occupational radiation, at least 500 mSv of medical radiation, and several
> mSv of radiation from flying. I can't see how a test showing that radiation
> damage caused the cancer could lead to the conclusion that the particular
> radiation that caused the particular genetic damage in question came from
> occupational exposure rather than one of the other sources.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Ludwig E. Feinendegen
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:10 AM
> To: 'The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Claim that Courts will be able to prove radiation
> as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence
>
> Roger et al.:   Please note that the PNAS article analyses patients exposed
> to high thyroid doses.  McPherson's claim has no basis  re low doses.
> Best,
> Ludwig
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] Im Auftrag von Roger Helbig
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Februar 2014 09:14
> An: RADSAFE
> Betreff: [ RadSafe ] Claim that Courts will be able to prove radiation as
> cancer-causer, by DNA evidence
>
> Is this legitimate research in a legitimate journal or yet another example
> of the perversion of what once was perhaps known as a journal that reported
> genuine scientific accomplishment.  MacPherson is in especially great form
> these past couple of days.  If anyone from Australia on this list knows
> this
> woman, it is time that she is fully exposed along with whoever has funded
> her endless stream of "not nuclear-news".
>
> Roger Helbig
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: nuclear-news <comment-reply at wordpress.com>
> Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 10:19 PM
> Subject: [New post] Courts will be able to prove radiation as
> cancer-causer,
> by DNA evidence
> To: rwhelbig at gmail.com
>
>
> Christina MacPherson posted: "DNA Evidence Can Now Prove Link Between
> Cancers And Fukushima Radiation, What if there were a way to establish a
> direct and provable in court link between cancer and Fukushima radiation?
> ...... Hess, J. et al Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid"
> Respond to this post by replying above this line
>
> New post on nuclear-news
>
> Courts will be able to prove radiation as cancer-causer, by DNA evidence
>
> by Christina MacPherson
>
> DNA Evidence Can Now Prove Link Between Cancers And Fukushima Radiation,
> What if there were a way to establish a direct and provable in court link
> between cancer and Fukushima radiation? ......
>
> Hess, J. et al Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid carcinomas
> of young patients is associated with exposure to low-dose irradiation.
> Proceeding of the National Academy of Sciences USA (PNAS); Link to
> publication "Scientists have been able to discriminate between the cancers
> caused by the radioactive contamination and those that arise naturally.
> Prof.
> Zitzelsberger ascribes the success of this study to the careful collection,
> documentation and storage of thyroid cancers from the Chernobyl region in
> the Chernobyl Tissue Bank. He noted that this unique collection of
> materials
> made it possible for the team to compare for the first time tumours from
> children of the same age and regional background.
>
> http://www.biosciencetechnology.com/News/Feeds/2011/05/sections-internationa
> l-news-fingerprint-of-radiation-exposure-discovered-in-th/
> via Fred Davis Invites Welcome
> Gain of chromosome band 7q11 in papillary thyroid carcinomas of young
> patients is associated with exposure to low-dose irradiation
> http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2011/05/18/1017137108.abstract
> This DNA marker is quite possibly the nuclear industry's worst nightmare.
> Any medical professional or lawyer team around the world can now order a
> DNA
> test and have the cancer tissue analyzed to see if it was caused by
> Fukushima or Chernobyl, or Santa Susana, or Three Mile Island radioactive
> elements, each of which have a unique 'signature', just like people have
> fingerprints.  ......
> Since the nuclear industry in many countries has a legal immunity from
> lawsuits, a recent class action to try and get this changed may open things
> up on a larger front. Wouldn't you agree that a company that can harm or
> kill millions of people should not be immune from lawsuits?
> via MamaBears AgainstNukes "The lawyers for the 1.415 plaintiffs stated
> that
> they have filed a lawsuit at the Tokyo District Court, describing the case
> as a landmark challenge to nuclear power plant manufacturers immunity from
> liability in nuclear accidents."
>
> http://nsnbc.me/2014/01/30/fukushima-landmark-lawsuit-filed-general-electric
> -toshiba-hitachi/
> Christina MacPherson | February 7, 2014 at 6:19 am | URL:
> http://wp.me/phgse-gnp
>
>
> http://nuclear-news.net/2014/02/07/courts-will-be-able-to-prove-radiation-as
> -cancer-causer-by-dna-evidence/
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