[ RadSafe ] Climate Change Report

[KARAM, PHILIP]

It is also interesting is that virtually all of the Glacier Bay ice retreat occurred before CO2 levels started to rise. There's a great map of historical ice extent at the USGS web site (http://soundwaves.usgs.gov/2001/07/glacierbaymap.gif). Anthropogenic CO2 is clearly NOT responsible for a glacial retreat that began in the late 18th century. Of course this observation has nothing to do with more recent glacial retreats - but at the least it shows that some pretty major glaciers started melting long before there was any human impact on atmospheric CO2 levels.

Andy


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The National Snow and Ice Data Center (nsidc.org) recently had a map and
graph online showing that Antarctic sea ice extent was above the 95
percentile for the 30 year average (1981-2010).  Strangely I can't find
that map and graph today.
At http://nsidc.org/cryosphere/sotc/sea_ice.html you can find a lengthy
page that focuses almost exclusively on the decrease in Arctic ice extent
and only briefly mentions Antarctic ice increases and shows one graph with
both Arctic and Antarctic trends.
No mention is made of the substantial increase in Arctic ice in 2013.


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Oh well ... Denial is the best defense mechanism there is ...  but there
> is little pleasure in watching this cold happen ... there are many more
> deaths worldwide from extreme cold than from extreme hot ...  as the amount
> of sea ice worldwide continues to build more than recent years
>
> Anyway, to all, best wishes for your coming 2014.
> Sincerely,
> Maury&Dog  [MaurySiskel  maurysis at peoplepc.com]
> ===============================
>
>
> On 12/31/2013 6:27 PM, Ivor Surveyor wrote:
>
>>
>> The great denial:
>>
>> "Chris Turney, a professor of climate change at Australia's University of
>> New South Wales, said it was "silly" to suggest he and 73 others aboard the
>> MV Akademic Shokalskiy were trapped in ice they'd sought to prove had
>> melted. <http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/12/30/stuck-in-
>> our-own-experiment-leader-trapped-team-insists-polar-ice-is-melting/>He
>> remained adamant that sea ice is melting, even as the boat remained trapped
>> in frozen seas...
>>
>> "Sea ice is disappearing due to climate change, but here ice is building
>> up," the Australasian Antarctic Expedition said in a statement."
>>
>> From Andrew Bolt's Blog of 1st Jan 2014
>>
>>
>> Ivor Surveyor
>> isurveyor at vianet.net.au _______________________________________________
>>
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