[ RadSafe ] Legacy school rad materials disposal

Dan McCarn hotgreenchile at gmail.com
Sun Jan 26 10:47:03 CST 2014

Dear Thomas:

The definition of "radioactive materials" is a 2-part test (DOT, IAEA,

1) The concentration must exceed a limit
2) The total activity must exceed a limit.

I seriously doubt that these meet either requirement, much less both.
Therefore, they are not "radioactive materials".

My understanding is that they could simply be disposed of directly in the

Dan ii

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On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Thomas Papura <trpapura at gw.dec.state.ny.us
> wrote:

> I am trying to help out a couple local schools. They have some legacy
> radioactive sources, and among them are the kits as seen on Paul Frame's
> website:
> http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/Miscellaneous/plasticboxeseduquip.htm
> The least expensive quote we obtained from brokers was $225 per box. One
> school has 40 plus and the other 20 plus. This is a considerable expense.
> My question is this? Most brokers want to charge ludicrous amounts of
> money to dispose of them due to the Nitrate content and subsequent
> concerns. Considering the trivial amounts of Uranium and Thorium present, I
> would imagine they are exempt from regulation but was wondering if anyone
> knows for sure how they were distributed? Were they sold as exempt?
> Generally licensed? If so, perhaps they could be solidified in concrete and
> disposed of without regard to their rad content?
> Any assistance would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Thomas Papura
> Environmental Radiation Specialist II
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