[ RadSafe ] Mailing List Problems

Perle, Sandy sperle at mirion.com
Sun May 4 12:13:03 CDT 2014


The simplest way is for Yahoo mail users to get a free gmail or other free email to avoid issue and leave Radsafe Configuration alone. That is only asking for problems for everyone, especially Jeff and IT&T!

Regards,

Sandy
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2014, at 10:09 AM, "Dimiter Popoff" <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> perhaps a solution would be to set the "From:" field of the
> outgoing messages to <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> ; while this
> would allow the messages to go through the poster email will not
> be visible to the recipients though.
> 
> Perhaps the sender email can be inserted in the "Subject:" line,
> instead of (or appended to) what we now see as [Radsafe].
> Or added as a say X-from: header line, but this will not
> be seen without looking at the header by most if not all
> users.
> 
> Not sure what options you have available, so I don't know
> if any of this can be easily done.
> 
> Dimiter
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Dimiter Popoff, TGI  http://www.tgi-sci.com/tgi/nmca3.htm
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> 
>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>> Date: Sun, 4 May 2014 09:24:59 -0500
>> To: "The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List"
>>    <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Mailing List Problems
>> 
>> Hi Dimiter,
>> 
>> Thanks for the offer. I think it is outgoing emails that are the problem. 
>> Yes there have been an incredibly large number of people effective. 
>> 
>> For some reason, it also affects other sites like sbcglobal, and a few others.   
>> You are correct in that those with their own company addresses have not been affected. 
>> 
>> It is not a blacklisting issue. That would be easier to deal with. 
>> Apparently, it is due to the DMARC standard. The only solution that we have
>> so far would be to anonymize everyone. We don't want to do this for obvious
>> reasons, the list can't own the posts and the posts would lose the legitimacy
>> of the author.   
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 11:51 PM, Dimiter Popoff <didi at tgi-sci.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>> 
>>> they can't do that except for people wanting to access the list
>>> via the yahoo webmail service. Are they that many?
>>> 
>>> Obviously they can do loads of problems for lists they host but
>>> this is not the case with this list, is it?
>>> 
>>> If they have blacklisted the domain hosting the list (health.phys.iit.edu)
>>> we could setup some alternative email addresses which would automatically
>>> forward the messages to the list (I could do that on our domain, tgi-sci.com ,
>>> our hosting provider does give us that option).
>>> 
>>> Dimiter
>>> 
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>>> Dimiter Popoff, TGI  http://www.tgi-sci.com/tgi/nmca3.htm
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Jeff Terry <terryj at iit.edu>
>>>> Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 19:00:45 -0500
>>>> To: Health Physics <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Mailing List Problems
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately, yahoo has chosen to break just about all mailing lists on the planet. 
>>>> 
>>>> We are trying to come up with a solution. Unfortunately, those we have come up with are not good. 
>>>> 
>>>> More on the problem can be found below. 
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> "On April 8 Yahoo implemented a new DMARC policy that essentially bars any Yahoo user from
>>>> accessing mailing lists hosted anywhere except on Yahoo and Google. While Yahoo is the initiator,
>>>> it also affects Comcast, ATT, Rogers, SBGlobal and several other ISPs. Internet Engineering
>>>> Council expert John R. Levine, specialing in email infrastructure and spam filtering claimed
>>>> in a post .Yahoo breaks every mailing list in the world including the IETF's.. on the Internet
>>>> Engineering Task Force (IETF) list.  
> 
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