[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1726, Issue 1

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Today's Topics: 

1. Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
(Gretchen Mitschelen) 
2. Re: Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
(David Biela) 
3. Re: Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
(JPreisig at aol.com) 
4. Re: Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
(Rees, Brian G) 
5. Re: Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
(Doug Aitken) 
6. Re: Can anyone help on radiological incident project? (Brad Keck) 
7. Fwd: [New post] Danger of nuclear fuel storage at Columbia 
Generating Station (Roger Helbig) 

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Message: 1 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:28:00 -0500 
From: Gretchen Mitschelen <gmitsch at umich.edu> 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
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I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the University 
of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 

I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in 
Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 

I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out there, but 
am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first responders, 
how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who handled 
the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested in any 
in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation measurements made, 
and the techniques used to do so. 

Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows me to 
request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 

Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this incident 
is also welcome. 

Thanks for any help!! 

-- 
Gretchen Mitschelen 
University of Michigan class of 2015 
Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences 

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Message: 2 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:45:36 -0500 
From: David Biela <bielada at roadrunner.com> 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident 
project? 
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Gretchen: 

I do not information on this incident but I am glad to see you using 
this resource. Tell your friends and classmates. 

Dave Biela 

On Nov 21, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Gretchen Mitschelen wrote: 

> I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the 
> University 
> of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 
> 
> I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in 
> Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 
> 
> I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out 
> there, but 
> am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first 
> responders, 
> how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who 
> handled 
> the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested 
> in any 
> in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation 
> measurements made, 
> and the techniques used to do so. 
> 
> Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows 
> me to 
> request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 
> 
> Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this 
> incident 
> is also welcome. 
> 
> Thanks for any help!! 
> 
> -- 
> Gretchen Mitschelen 
> University of Michigan class of 2015 
> Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences 
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Message: 3 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 14:11:39 -0500 
From: JPreisig at aol.com 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident 
project? 
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu 
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Gretchen/Radsafe: 

Nice question. Search via internet. See if the Nuclear Regulatory 
Commission got involved. Is Michigan an agreement state??? Contact the 
local Michigan State Department of Environmental Protection/Radiation 
Protection Group and see what they have on Hand. Search their archives or News 
Events in their website. Check newspapers online or in the UMichigan library. 
Some Health Physicist from Radsafe probably knows all about this event 
and will send you an email shortly. 

Did this Hahn kid actually get his hands on some moderately enriched 
Uranium or Plutonium to get this small reactor going. Doubtful. Unless he 
is a great thief or able to enrich Uranium/Plutonium at home, he probably 
didn't get this reactor to go far online. 

Good Luck Joe Preisig 

PS Wonder if present day Iran has a secret underground diffusion plant 
which runs day and night to make enriched Uranium and/or Plutonium for 
Nuclear Power and Spaceship Propulsion??? Wonder if Keshe got his 
Uranium/Plutonium for Spaceship Propulsion from the flying saucer that crashed in Iran??? 
Clearly Team USA (men in black???) needs to respond quickly to flying 
saucer crash sites to clean up downed reactors and especially to retrieve that 
naughty highly-enriched Plutonium/Uranium. 

In a message dated 11/21/2014 1:28:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
gmitsch at umich.edu writes: 

I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the University 
of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 

I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in 
Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 

I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out there, but 
am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first responders, 
how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who handled 
the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested in any 
in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation measurements made, 
and the techniques used to do so. 

Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows me to 
request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 

Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this incident 
is also welcome. 

Thanks for any help!! 

-- 
Gretchen Mitschelen 
University of Michigan class of 2015 
Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences 
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Message: 4 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:53:12 +0000 
From: "Rees, Brian G" <brees at lanl.gov> 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident 
project? 
To: "'radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu'" <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> 
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There is a book regarding the incident. It wasn't full of technical details, but there were a few tech nuggets. I don't recall the name of it, but Goggle will find it. 
Brian Rees 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gretchen Mitschelen [mailto:gmitsch at umich.edu] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:28 AM 
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 

I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the University 
of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 

I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in 
Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 

I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out there, but 
am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first responders, 
how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who handled 
the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested in any 
in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation measurements made, 
and the techniques used to do so. 

Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows me to 
request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 

Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this incident 
is also welcome. 

Thanks for any help!! 

-- 
Gretchen Mitschelen 
University of Michigan class of 2015 
Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences 
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Message: 5 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 19:55:35 +0000 
From: Doug Aitken <JAitken at slb.com> 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident 
project? 
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Wikipedia has a good set of references. Unfortunately nothing from regulators 

Regards 
Doug 

Doug Aitken 
Cell phone: 713-562-8585 
QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support 
Schlumberger Technology Corporation 
c/o Kathy Trosclair 
300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15, 
Sugar Land, Texas 77478 

-----Original Message----- 
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:53 PM 
To: 'radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu' 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 

There is a book regarding the incident. It wasn't full of technical details, but there were a few tech nuggets. I don't recall the name of it, but Goggle will find it. 
Brian Rees 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Gretchen Mitschelen [mailto:gmitsch at umich.edu] 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:28 AM 
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 

I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the University of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 

I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 

I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out there, but am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first responders, how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who handled the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested in any in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation measurements made, and the techniques used to do so. 

Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows me to request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 

Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this incident is also welcome. 

Thanks for any help!! 

-- 
Gretchen Mitschelen 
University of Michigan class of 2015 
Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences _______________________________________________ 
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Message: 6 
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 15:22:22 -0500 
From: Brad Keck <bradkeck at mac.com> 
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident 
project? 
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Gretchen and All, 

He was known as the "radioactive boy scout" and I'll bet either USEPA or MDEQ still have a public file on the incident, which wasn't all that far from Ann Arbor. 

Here's an update on the "scout" from the web. 

Happy Hunting! 

Bradly D Keck 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2506549/Uh-oh-Radioactive-Boy-Scout-built-nuclear-reactor-Detroit-shed-sparking-evacuation-40-000-wants-invent-lightbulb-lasts-100-years.html 

On Nov 21, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Doug Aitken wrote: 

> Wikipedia has a good set of references. Unfortunately nothing from regulators 
> 
> Regards 
> Doug 
> 
> 
> Doug Aitken 
> Cell phone: 713-562-8585 
> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support 
> Schlumberger Technology Corporation 
> c/o Kathy Trosclair 
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15, 
> Sugar Land, Texas 77478 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Rees, Brian G 
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 1:53 PM 
> To: 'radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu' 
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
> 
> There is a book regarding the incident. It wasn't full of technical details, but there were a few tech nuggets. I don't recall the name of it, but Goggle will find it. 
> Brian Rees 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Gretchen Mitschelen [mailto:gmitsch at umich.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 11:28 AM 
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> 
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Can anyone help on radiological incident project? 
> 
> I am currently studying Radiological Health Engineering at the University of Michigan under Dr. Kim Kearfott. 
> 
> I am involved in a group project about the August 31, 1994 incident in Commerce twp., where David Hahn built a 'home-made' nuclear reactor. 
> 
> I know the media has a lot of information about the incident out there, but am looking for more official reports-such as who were the first responders, how was the situation handled, was any radiation measured, and who handled the final clean up of the area. I am also particularly interested in any in house reports that detail isotopes present, radiation measurements made, and the techniques used to do so. 
> 
> Again, I realize this was a while back, but if my 'digging' allows me to request copies of any official reports, it would help me tremendously! 
> 
> Any advice on who else I may contact regarding information on this incident is also welcome. 
> 
> Thanks for any help!! 
> 
> -- 
> Gretchen Mitschelen 
> University of Michigan class of 2015 
> Nuclear Engineering and Radiological Sciences _______________________________________________ 
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Message: 7 
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 01:27:22 -0800 
From: Roger Helbig <rwhelbig at gmail.com> 
Subject: [ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Danger of nuclear fuel storage at 
Columbia Generating Station 
To: RADSAFE <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu> 
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when is some going to make people that are not anti-nuclear 
campaigners, a well paying occupation, realize that Robert Alvarez 
knows pretty much nothing about spent nuclear fuel. He is just a 
slightly better educated and "credentialed" Arnold Gundersen. 
---------- Forwarded message ---------- 

Christina MacPherson posted: "Groups says fuel storage poses risk at 
the Northwest's lone commercial nuclear plant Oregon Live By Ted 
Sickinger| tsickinger at oregonian.com Email the author | Follow on 
Twitter November 20, 2014 The growing stockpile of spent nuclear 
fuel at the North" 
Respond to this post by replying above this line 

New post on nuclear-news 

Danger of nuclear fuel storage at Columbia Generating Station 

by Christina MacPherson 

Groups says fuel storage poses risk at the Northwest's lone commercial 
nuclear plant Oregon Live By Ted Sickinger| tsickinger at oregonian.com 
Email the author | Follow on Twitter November 20, 2014 The growing 
stockpile of spent nuclear fuel at the Northwest's lone commercial 
nuclear plant poses a safety risk to the public in the event of an 
earthquake, according to a study sponsored by anti-nuclear groups. 

The study of spent fuel storage at the Columbia Generating Station is 
the latest of several commissioned by the Physicians for Social 
Responsibility and Heart of America Northwest. They collectively 
suggest that the plant is an expensive and dangerous way for the 
Northwest to generate electricity, and that it ought to be closed. 

The study was authored by nuclear critic Robert Alvarez, senior 
scholar at the Institute for Policy Studies. Officials at Energy 
Northwest, the utility consortium that operates the plant, say it is 
riddled with hyperbole, data errors and fear mongering. They also 
suggest its backers are extrapolating earthquake risks from recent 
seismic data that doesn't apply to the plant site. 

The 1,200 megawatt boiling-water reactor is located on the Hanford 
nuclear reservation near Richland, Wash. It opened in 1984 and has 
since generated some 368,000 spent fuel rods in 4,588 assemblies. 

In the absence of a national repository, about 60 percent of that 
waste has been transferred to durable, dry-cask storage, a safety 
measure that Alvarez applauds. But the remaining 40 percent remains in 
the reactor's spent fuel pool, a 350,000-gallon tank located at the 
top of the reactor building, six stories above 
ground..........http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2014/11/groups_says_fuel_storage_poses.html 

Christina MacPherson | November 22, 2014 at 9:05 am | Categories: 
safety, USA | URL: http://wp.me/phgse-imo 

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