[ RadSafe ] Fwd: [New post] Meticulous research indicates much greater li...

Wed Apr 22 10:30:44 CDT 2015

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It is evident that the "activists" have on blinkers and  focus on only nuclear incidents. There has not been much talk from anyone about the very large amount of environmental damage (and human injury/deaths) resulting from the many chemical and other plants destroyed by the Tohoku tsunami. And the deaths attributed to the actual Fukushima nuclear plant (~1000, according to the Japanese Reconstruction Agency, with over 90% of these over 66 yrs of age) were attributed to the (by most accounts) unnecessary evacuation of many residents (of course, there were about 6 workers who received over the lifetime legal limit for radation workers and about 300 more who received "significant" doses, which is a remarkably low number, considering the heroic efforts made by the plant workers).

We should not forget the overwhelming negative statistics attached to the extraction and use of coal to generate electric power world-wide...... (I am a bit  saddened that the excellent summary of radioactive emissions from coal fired power generating plants is no longer available from ORNL. I guess it did not fit the current political climate....). and Germany, in its "wisdom" is scrambling to replace all nuclear power, much by generating plants fired by (very dirty) brown coal...

The "Green" party should be renamed the Brown party!
Regards

Doug Aitken
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Schlumberger Technology Corporation
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The Bhopal chemical disaster far outweighs any nuclear power accident when it comes to the harm done. Oil spills and mining disasters need far more discussion than reactor accidents, since the consequences have been far more terrific.

Bill. 

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Radsafe,

     When the coal, oil, natural gas start to run out  in 50 years, people will be building new nuclear reactors with a big smile on  their faces.  
Maybe they'll have 40% efficient solar cells on their  home roofs also.

     Joe Preisig

In a message dated 4/22/2015 6:38:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rwhelbig at gmail.com writes:

Is this  really meticulous research or are these people anti-nuclear activists first  and scientists second?

Roger Helbig

Meticulous research  indicates much greater likelihood of another Chernobyl-scale nuclear  accident

by Christina MacPherson

Wheatley and co's work suggests  that a Chernobyl-scale accident is worryingly likely to occur within the  working lifetime of the reactors now being built. And when that happens, a  once obscure place will enter the lexicon as a synonym for catastrophe,  just like Chernobyl, Windscale and Fukushima.

These risks will have  to be carefully weighed against the advantages.
The question for engineers,  policy makers and the general public alike is whether that risk is worth  taking, given what's at stake.

The Chances of Another Chernobyl Before  2050? 50%, Say Safety Specialists, MIT Technology Review  April 17,  2015  ".....And there's a
50:50 chance of a Three Mile Island-scale  disaster in the next 10 years, according to the largest statistical  analysis of nuclear accidents ever undertaken........

What is the  likelihood of another Chernobyl in the next few years?

Today, we get an  answer thanks to the work of Spencer Wheatley and Didier Sornette at ETH  Zurich in Switzerland and Benjamin Sovacool at Aarhus University in  Denmark. These guys have compiled the most comprehensive list of nuclear  accidents ever created and used it to calculate the likelihood of other  accidents in future.

Their worrying conclusion is that the chances are  50:50 that a major nuclear disaster will occur somewhere in the world  before 2050. "There is a
50 per cent chance that a Chernobyl event (or  larger) occurs in the next 27 years," they conclude.

The nuclear  industry has long been criticised for its over-confident attitude to risk.  But truly independent analyses are few and far between, partly because much  of the data on accidents is compiled by the nuclear industry itself, which  is reluctant to share it.

The International Atomic Energy Agency rates  accidents using a system called the International Nuclear Event Scale,  which is related to the amount of radiation released. However, the Agency  does not publish a historical database of these accidents, probably because  it has a dual role of both regulating the nuclear industry and promoting  it. Read more of this post

Christina MacPherson | April 22, 2015 at  8:22 am | Categories: safety
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