[ RadSafe ] RadSafe Digest, Vol 1898, Issue 1

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When Ontario had coal fired plants, the fly ash was sold to make concrete and drywall.  No one worried about the radioactivity except when we tried to recycle some plastic liners from the fly ash hoppers.  They set of the portal alarms at the waste plant. 
 

 

 

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   1. Re: solar advances (parthasarathy k s)
   2. Re: solar
advances (Doug Aitken)
   3. Re: solar advances (Maury)
   4. Re: solar
advances (JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com)
   5. Re: solar advances (Brennan, Mike 
(DOH))
   6. Re: solar advances (parthasarathy k s)
   7. Re: solar advances
(Joseph Preisig)
   8. coal ash
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:08:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: parthasarathy k s
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Friends,
India has reportedly the world's first
fully solar powered airport at Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW?
The link:
Indian
airport is the first in the world 100% powered by renewable energy

| ? |
| ?
|  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| Indian airport is the first in the world 100%
powered by...The Cochin International Airport (CIAL) shines like jewel - the
first international airport in the world that is 100% served by solar energy.
|
|  |
| View on www.zmescience.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
| ?
|


RegardsParthasarathy 


     On Tuesday, 1 September 2015, 22:20, Ted
de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com> wrote:
   

 I didn't look for that article - so
I don't know the specifics or if 
they require concentration but....

Don't
worry - at even double the current solar cell efficiency (current 
practical
max 10% or 20% with concentration) they would/could never put 
up enough sq
miles of solar panels to even replace current usage - I ran 
the
numbers.

Amazing since PEAK solar "impact" on my roof calculates to nearly
1/2 
megawatt!!

On 8/31/2015 8:55 PM, ROY HERREN wrote:
> I suppose that it
all depends on one's own vested interests as to how they feel about this issue,
but the news about increasing the efficiency of inexpensive solar cells would
seem to be really good news.? The current generation of Silicon solar cells are
at near cost parity with major forms of generating electricty, so one could
potentially surmise from this recent press that if this new technology makes it
to market that the costs of solar photovoltaics will be less than other sources
of electricity.? This has the potential to significantly shift the balance in
the entire energy market.? Unfortunately,? without decreases in the cost of
nuclear power generation, or significient governmental regulatory pressure on
fossil fuel carbon emissions, this does not bode well for the nuclear industry.?
The Nuclear industry could very well follow the coal industry into oblivion,?
which in my humble opinion is ironic because I suspect that the coal industry
and
>? their lobbyists have conspired over the years to kill the Nuclear
Industry.
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:50:07 +0000
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To: parthasarathy k s <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk>, "The
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Schlumberger-Private
________________________________________
It
would be interesting to see how they store the electricity for night-time
operation.
Or are they strictly a daytime operation?
Regards
Doug

Doug
Aitken
Cell phone: 713-562-8585
QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations
Support
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[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k
s
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances

Friends,
India has reportedly the world's first fully solar powered
airport at Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
Indian airport is the first in the
world 100% powered by renewable energy

| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
|
Indian airport is the first in the world 100% powered by...The Cochin 
|
International Airport (CIAL) shines like jewel - the first 
| international
airport in the world that is 100% served by solar 
| energy. |  | View on 
|
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.zmescience.com
|
&d=BQIGaQ&c=uGuXJ43KPkPWEl2imVFDmZQlhQUET7pVRA2PDIOxgqw&r=14LONNa1ke9V
|
cgK_9mKXig&m=pR3ApMbcF9wql6oSfpdPA4qJ--qk8I_11eo3qm4d2KI&s=81y6--9Kegb
|
syq2DnMaO5OmTdR-5cQh1jTyndPinD1k&e=  | Preview by Yahoo |  |
| ?
|


RegardsParthasarathy 


     On Tuesday, 1 September 2015, 22:20, Ted
de Castro <tdc at xrayted.com> wrote:
   

 I didn't look for that article - so
I don't know the specifics or if they require concentration but....

Don't
worry - at even double the current solar cell efficiency (current practical max
10% or 20% with concentration) they would/could never put up enough sq miles of
solar panels to even replace current usage - I ran the numbers.

Amazing since
PEAK solar "impact" on my roof calculates to nearly 1/2 megawatt!!

On
8/31/2015 8:55 PM, ROY HERREN wrote:
> I suppose that it all depends on one's
own vested interests as to how 
>they feel about this issue, but the news about
increasing the 
>efficiency of inexpensive solar cells would seem to be really
good 
>news.? The current generation of Silicon solar cells are at near cost

>parity with major forms of generating electricty, so one could 
>potentially
surmise from this recent press that if this new technology 
>makes it to market
that the costs of solar photovoltaics will be less 
>than other sources of
electricity.? This has the potential to 
>significantly shift the balance in
the entire energy market.? 
>Unfortunately,? without decreases in the cost of
nuclear power 
>generation, or significient governmental regulatory pressure on
fossil 
>fuel carbon emissions, this does not bode well for the nuclear

>industry.? The Nuclear industry could very well follow the coal 
>industry
into oblivion,? which in my humble opinion is ironic because I 
>suspect that
the coal industry and
>? their lobbyists have conspired over the years to kill
the Nuclear Industry.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 14:24:16
-0500
From: Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu,
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
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As you see below, this is a major airport that operates 24/7 .
. .

Cochin International Airport, Cochin, India

Airport data
IATA Code:
COK     ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121     Time: UTC+5.30
ICAO Code: VOCI     ATC
Fax: +91 484 261 0119     Runway: 3400m / 
11155ft (Hard)
*Hours of operation:
24hrs*
Customs: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 261 0072     Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484

261 0022     Fuel availability: Jet/Avgas
Nearest other airports: Cochin
15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut 65nm
Best,
Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel
maurysis at peoplepc.com]
==================================================
On
9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug Aitken wrote:
> Schlumberger-Private
>
________________________________________
> It would be interesting to see how
they store the electricity for night-time operation.
> Or are they strictly a
daytime operation?
> Regards
> Doug
>
> Doug Aitken
> Cell phone:
713-562-8585
> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
> Schlumberger Technology
Corporation
> c/o Kathy Trosclair
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
> Sugar
Land, Texas 77478
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu]
On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
>
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>
> Friends,
> India has reportedly
the world's first fully solar powered airport at Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The
link:
> Indian airport is the first in the world 100% powered by renewable
energy
>
----------------------------------------snipped-----------------------------


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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 15:10:44 -0500
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Just a quick question  - -pls don't blow it
out of proportion.

As part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a
pretty good 
understanding of nuclear plant maintenance requirements.  The
question is, 
what are the maintenance requirements for solar arrays.  It seems
like 
they're pretty trouble free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an

'earthly' environment..  For example, could temperature variations, dust,

wind, storage batteries, etc., increase maintenance costs enough to make a

difference?
thx - - jmr





From:   Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
To:
radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, JAitken at slb.com, 
Date:   09/01/2015 02:25
PM
Subject:        Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
Sent by:       
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu



As you see below, this is a major
airport that operates 24/7 . . .

Cochin International Airport, Cochin,
India

Airport data
IATA Code: COK     ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121     Time:
UTC+5.30
ICAO Code: VOCI     ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119     Runway: 3400m /

11155ft (Hard)
*Hours of operation: 24hrs*
Customs: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 261
0072     Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 
261 0022     Fuel availability:
Jet/Avgas
Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut
65nm
Best,
Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel
maurysis at peoplepc.com]
==================================================
On
9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug Aitken wrote:
> Schlumberger-Private
>
________________________________________
> It would be interesting to see how
they store the electricity for 
night-time operation.
> Or are they strictly a
daytime operation?
> Regards
> Doug
>
> Doug Aitken
> Cell phone:
713-562-8585
> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
> Schlumberger Technology
Corporation
> c/o Kathy Trosclair
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
> Sugar
Land, Texas 77478
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[
mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
> To: The International Radiation
Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances
>
> Friends,
> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar
powered airport at 
Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
> Indian airport is the
first in the world 100% powered by renewable

energy
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 21:10:51 +0000
From: "Brennan, Mike  (DOH)"
<Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV>
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I think the best answer is, "It
depends".

You are correct that there are a lot of things on the ground that
have to be taken into consideration.  It would be foolish to not engineer for
whatever the extreme weather is for that location: the cost per unit of energy
goes up a lot if the entire array has to be replaced after every wind storm. 


Cleaning is probably going to be the biggest ongoing maintenance cost,
especially as it will be needed most often in the urban areas where solar energy
can be used with the least line losses.  I suspect that dust and biofilms can
really cut into efficiency.  

On the other hand, servicing a solar array has
to be much cheaper per unit of energy than servicing wind turbines. 

-----Original Message-----
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JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:11 PM
To: The
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances

Just a quick question  - -pls don't blow it out of proportion.

As
part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a pretty good understanding of
nuclear plant maintenance requirements.  The question is, what are the
maintenance requirements for solar arrays.  It seems like they're pretty trouble
free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an 'earthly' environment..  For
example, could temperature variations, dust, wind, storage batteries, etc.,
increase maintenance costs enough to make a difference?
thx - -
jmr





From:   Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
To:    
radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, JAitken at slb.com, 
Date:   09/01/2015 02:25
PM
Subject:        Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
Sent by:       
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu



As you see below, this is a major
airport that operates 24/7 . . .

Cochin International Airport, Cochin,
India

Airport data
IATA Code: COK     ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121     Time:
UTC+5.30
ICAO Code: VOCI     ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119     Runway: 3400m /

11155ft (Hard)
*Hours of operation: 24hrs*
Customs: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 261
0072     Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 
261 0022     Fuel availability:
Jet/Avgas
Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut 65nm
Best, Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel maurysis at peoplepc.com]
==================================================
On 9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug
Aitken wrote:
> Schlumberger-Private
>
________________________________________
> It would be interesting to see how
they store the electricity for
night-time operation.
> Or are they strictly a
daytime operation?
> Regards
> Doug
>
> Doug Aitken
> Cell phone:
713-562-8585
> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
> Schlumberger Technology
Corporation
> c/o Kathy Trosclair
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
> Sugar
Land, Texas 77478
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[
mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
> To: The International Radiation
Protection (Health Physics) Mailing 
> List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances
>
> Friends,
> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar
powered airport at
Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
> Indian airport is the
first in the world 100% powered by
renewable
energy
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 01:18:50 +0000 (UTC)
From: parthasarathy k s
<ksparth at yahoo.co.uk>
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Friends,
I could gather some more information on
the solar powered airport in India.This airport was constructed in record
time.The management Cochin International Airport Limited (CIAL) is very
progressive.In 2013, They erected a 100 kWp to begin with and progressively
raised it to higher levels.
The solar power system is grid connected with no
battery stage.The 12 MWp solar power plant,?comprising of 46,150 solar panels
laid across 45 acres near cargo complex now ?produces 50,000 to 60,000 units of
electricity per day to be consumed for all its operational functions, It needs
48,000 units of power per day.The entire power produced during the day is fed to
the State's electricity grid. The airport buys back whatever it needs from the
grid.The airport has a power purchasing agreement with the Kerala State
Electricity Board. CIAL is a profit-making company . The Company paid 21%
dividend to the investors
Kerala State is sunny. The humidity in the region is
also high. As Mike said ?dust and biofilms can eat into the efficiency of solar
cells. Hot climate with lot of humidity can accelerate the growth of all sort of
little beasts including fungi!
Yes maintenance issues may be humongous. We have
to watch how successfully it operates over periods of months and years. Reality
will set in once the celebrations are over.
India plans to construct 100 GW of
solar power in the next five years. Many consider this as too
ambitious.
RegardsParthasarathy
 


     On Wednesday, 2 September 2015,
2:41, "Brennan, Mike (DOH)" <Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
   

 I think
the best answer is, "It depends".

You are correct that there are a lot of
things on the ground that have to be taken into consideration.? It would be
foolish to not engineer for whatever the extreme weather is for that location:
the cost per unit of energy goes up a lot if the entire array has to be replaced
after every wind storm.? 

Cleaning is probably going to be the biggest
ongoing maintenance cost, especially as it will be needed most often in the
urban areas where solar energy can be used with the least line losses.? I
suspect that dust and biofilms can really cut into efficiency.? 

On the other
hand, servicing a solar array has to be much cheaper per unit of energy than
servicing wind turbines.? 
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Just a quick question? - -pls don't blow it out of proportion.

As
part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a pretty good understanding of
nuclear plant maintenance requirements.? The question is, what are the
maintenance requirements for solar arrays.? It seems like they're pretty trouble
free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an 'earthly' environment..? For
example, could temperature variations, dust, wind, storage batteries, etc.,
increase maintenance costs enough to make a difference?
thx - -
jmr





From:? Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
To:? ?
radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, JAitken at slb.com, 
Date:? 09/01/2015 02:25
PM
Subject:? ? ? ? Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
Sent by:? ? ? ?
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As you see below, this is a major
airport that operates 24/7 . . .

Cochin International Airport, Cochin,
India

Airport data
IATA Code: COK? ? ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121? ? Time:
UTC+5.30
ICAO Code: VOCI? ? ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119? ? Runway: 3400m /

11155ft (Hard)
*Hours of operation: 24hrs*
Customs: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 261
0072? ? Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 
261 0022? ? Fuel availability:
Jet/Avgas
Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut 65nm
Best, Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel maurysis at peoplepc.com]
==================================================
On 9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug
Aitken wrote:
> Schlumberger-Private
>
________________________________________
> It would be interesting to see how
they store the electricity for
night-time operation.
> Or are they strictly a
daytime operation?
> Regards
> Doug
>
> Doug Aitken
> Cell phone:
713-562-8585
> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
> Schlumberger Technology
Corporation
> c/o Kathy Trosclair
> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
> Sugar
Land, Texas 77478
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
[
mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
> To: The International Radiation
Protection (Health Physics) Mailing 
> List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances
>
> Friends,
> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar
powered airport at
Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
> Indian airport is the
first in the world 100% powered by
renewable
energy
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 10:46:34 -0400
From: Joseph Preisig
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To: parthasarathy k s <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk>, 	"The
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Hmmmm,

     Sounds like solar power will compete
with farming for many acres
of viable crop-growing land.  Not so good.

     
Joe Preisig



On 9/1/15, parthasarathy k s <ksparth at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
Friends,
> I could gather some more information on the solar powered airport
in
> India.This airport was constructed in record time.The management Cochin
>
International Airport Limited (CIAL) is very progressive.In 2013, They
>
erected a 100 kWp to begin with and progressively raised it to higher
>
levels.
> The solar power system is grid connected with no battery stage.The 12
MWp
> solar power plant,?comprising of 46,150 solar panels laid across 45
acres
> near cargo complex now ?produces 50,000 to 60,000 units of electricity
per
> day to be consumed for all its operational functions, It needs 48,000
units
> of power per day.The entire power produced during the day is fed to
the
> State's electricity grid. The airport buys back whatever it needs from
the
> grid.The airport has a power purchasing agreement with the Kerala
State
> Electricity Board. CIAL is a profit-making company . The Company paid
21%
> dividend to the investors
> Kerala State is sunny. The humidity in the
region is also high. As Mike said
> ?dust and biofilms can eat into the
efficiency of solar cells. Hot climate
> with lot of humidity can accelerate
the growth of all sort of little beasts
> including fungi!
> Yes maintenance
issues may be humongous. We have to watch how successfully
> it operates over
periods of months and years. Reality will set in once the
> celebrations are
over.
> India plans to construct 100 GW of solar power in the next five years.
Many
> consider this as too ambitious.
> RegardsParthasarathy
>
>
>
>     
On Wednesday, 2 September 2015, 2:41, "Brennan, Mike (DOH)"
>
<Mike.Brennan at DOH.WA.GOV> wrote:
>
>
>  I think the best answer is, "It
depends".
>
> You are correct that there are a lot of things on the ground
that have to be
> taken into consideration.? It would be foolish to not
engineer for whatever
> the extreme weather is for that location: the cost per
unit of energy goes
> up a lot if the entire array has to be replaced after
every wind storm.
>
> Cleaning is probably going to be the biggest ongoing
maintenance cost,
> especially as it will be needed most often in the urban
areas where solar
> energy can be used with the least line losses.? I suspect
that dust and
> biofilms can really cut into efficiency.
>
> On the other
hand, servicing a solar array has to be much cheaper per unit
> of energy than
servicing wind turbines.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
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>
[mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
>
JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 1:11 PM
> To:
The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Cc:
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances
>
> Just a quick question? - -pls don't blow it out of
proportion.
>
> As part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a pretty
good
> understanding of nuclear plant maintenance requirements.? The question
is,
> what are the maintenance requirements for solar arrays.? It seems like
>
they're pretty trouble free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an
>
'earthly' environment..? For example, could temperature variations, dust,
>
wind, storage batteries, etc., increase maintenance costs enough to make a
>
difference?
> thx - - jmr
>
>
>
>
>
> From:? Maury
<maurysis at peoplepc.com>
> To:? ? radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu,
JAitken at slb.com,
> Date:? 09/01/2015 02:25 PM
> Subject:? ? ? ? Re: [ RadSafe
] solar advances
> Sent by:? ? ? ?
radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>
>
>
> As you see below, this is a
major airport that operates 24/7 . . .
>
> Cochin International Airport,
Cochin, India
>
> Airport data
> IATA Code: COK? ? ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121?
? Time: UTC+5.30
> ICAO Code: VOCI? ? ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119? ? Runway:
3400m /
> 11155ft (Hard)
> *Hours of operation: 24hrs*
> Customs: Yes ; Tel:
+91 484 261 0072? ? Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484
> 261 0022? ? Fuel
availability: Jet/Avgas
> Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm;
Calicut 65nm Best,
> Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel maurysis at peoplepc.com]
>
==================================================
> On 9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug
Aitken wrote:
>> Schlumberger-Private
>>
________________________________________
>> It would be interesting to see how
they store the electricity for
> night-time operation.
>> Or are they strictly
a daytime operation?
>> Regards
>> Doug
>>
>> Doug Aitken
>> Cell phone:
713-562-8585
>> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
>> Schlumberger
Technology Corporation
>> c/o Kathy Trosclair
>> 300 Schlumberger Drive,
MD15,
>> Sugar Land, Texas 77478
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [
>
mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
>>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
>> To: The International Radiation
Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>> List
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar
advances
>>
>> Friends,
>> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar
powered airport at
> Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
>> Indian airport is the
first in the world 100% powered by renewable
> energy
>>
>
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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 11:23:22 -0500
From: JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
To:
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Subject: [ RadSafe ] coal
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Duke University has rediscovered that coal fly
ash has radioactivity. Is 
the next step to call it TENORM?   Being a nuke
(disclosure) this is not 
necessarily a cause for alarm.  However, it could
become the next 
radioactivity scare.  - Thoughts, opinions,
?????
jmr

http://phys.org/news/2015-09-radioactive-contaminants-coal-ash.html


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