[ RadSafe ] solar advances

Wed Sep 2 18:58:40 CDT 2015

Joe,

Isn't it a shame, that one of these xxxx "old" Europeans (copyright
Rumsfeld, one of the greatest US-American strategic genius (Iraq), who
ridiculed not only Austria because we did not break our constitution by
sending troops to support a foreign war and did not officially allow to
transport troops and military equipment even through the sky over Austrian
territory - they did it anyway....

Just a hint on rusting and rotting wind energy equipment in the USA: I
recommend to pay a visit to Hawaii's Big Island. At the most Southern tip of
it there was at least a few years ago a very large "wind park" with a very
large number of defunct propellers lying on the ground  (LOB-accidents?).
Many still swirling around with a terrible noise caused by rust and probably
poor maintenance. But if you go there, take at least a few weeks time to
visit the "rest" of H. awaii. This place is to beautiful to waste time on
spending it on wind energy! (Volcanoes, rain forest, great beaches, very
interesting history, Hawaiian art and museums, friendly people, a special
way of living "hanging loose"etc. etc. I enjoyed staying at "bed and
breakfast" accomodations, getting into contact with very nice people, some
of them even native Hawaiians. Tropical fruits and flowers and the
overwhelming landscape formed by the volcanoes. Oahu and Honolulu was for me
not very impressing, but for some it may be. Still there are very beautiful
and interesting places there, for US Americans Pearl Harbour might be of
great interest. More of US wind energy farms I cannot tell you, because my
favorite places in the USA are in the South-West and there I was mostly
interested in uranium mines, nuclear power plants I even made it to
somwindmllse minor repositories and you might be surprised that I had even a
guided visit at Hanford by a former US student who had been workng for some
time at my laboratory in Vienna., but

Driving home from Sevilla to Austria I deliberately chose in December to
cross the mountain range of the Alpujarras north of Sevilla. I admit that I
was interested to have a look at the "world famous" wind farm. There was a
magnificent view from the mountains down to the plain dotted with hundreds
of wheels, but to be a little sarcastic: It was somehow disappointing, that
not a single one was moving. The beautiful area around the southern tip of
Spain around the British enclave of Gibraltar is also heavily infested with
windmills.

Back to my home country: There are many lobbies who try to press through so
called "ecologically friendly" or "renewable" energy. Some promise even very
high rates on investments _more than 9%! Already now consumers have to pay
heavily for socalled stranded costs, reimbursments to companies which had
been prohibited by political decisions to veriyfy their plans. Practically
all of the producers are state or county owned providers). The much higher
costs of these "renewable" energy has to be paid by the consumers of
course - no question. In Austria there are some areas which are very
favourable to wind energy but protests are rising exponentially. First of
all arguments is the negative change on the landscape. I personally do not
think that hundreds of windmills in the landscape are a beautiful sight, but
Greenpeace and similar profitroriented "NGO's" might have a different
opinion. They claim that they preserve nature, but on the other hand destroy
it. "De gustibus non est disputandum". I noticed since the last years when I
travelled to Katowice in Poland that many of these ugly windmills had been
erected in the northern parts of Austria - but neither in the Czech Republic
or Poland. Maybe it is a matter of costs?

So much for today. I hope you have received through my ranting a somewhat
broader perspective and hopefully other radsafers too. I am still amazed by
the US habit to put the USA forward as the most important place in the world
and calling everything "elsewhere". Are you sure that this is justified?

Best regards anyway.

Franz

----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- 
From: Joseph Preisig
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:33 PM
To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances

Radsafe,

     Saw a news item that suggests that many wind energy
propellers/turbines are rusting away/rotting all over the USA and
elsewhere.

     Anyone make a living recovering scrap metal???
but si

     Joe Preisig

On 9/2/15, Amoling, Ronald <RAmoling at as-e.com> wrote:
> From what I've seen about residential solar systems, it seems a rinse a
> couple of times per year with a garden hose is sufficient.  I'm sure there
> are a lot of other factors that add up when you're working with commercial
> sized systems, but an army of panel washers seems less costly and less
> complicated than maintaining a nuke plant.
>
> It's interesting and exciting to see the advances in solar power.  How
> nice
> - 1) aim panel at sun; 2) get electricity from attached wire; 3) make it
> better and get more electricity from attached wire.   From the most basic
> perspective, developing/using solar power, when feasible, is a no-brainer.
> And yes I understand that there are a whole host of arguments for and
> against (tax credits taking money from other areas of R&D, land use, and
> on
> and on).
>
> Ron Amoling
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:11 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
> Cc: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>
> Just a quick question  - -pls don't blow it out of proportion.
>
> As part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a pretty good
> understanding of nuclear plant maintenance requirements.  The question is,
> what are the maintenance requirements for solar arrays.  It seems like
> they're pretty trouble free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an
> 'earthly' environment..  For example, could temperature variations, dust,
> wind, storage batteries, etc., increase maintenance costs enough to make a
> difference?
> thx - - jmr
>
>
>
>
>
> From:   Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
> To:     radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, JAitken at slb.com,
> Date:   09/01/2015 02:25 PM
> Subject:        Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
> Sent by:        radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>
>
>
> As you see below, this is a major airport that operates 24/7 . . .
>
> Cochin International Airport, Cochin, India
>
> Airport data
> IATA Code: COK     ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121     Time: UTC+5.30
> ICAO Code: VOCI     ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119     Runway: 3400m /
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> 261 0022     Fuel availability: Jet/Avgas
> Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut 65nm Best,
> Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel maurysis at peoplepc.com]
> ==================================================
> On 9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug Aitken wrote:
>> Schlumberger-Private
>> ________________________________________
>> It would be interesting to see how they store the electricity for
> night-time operation.
>> Or are they strictly a daytime operation?
>> Regards
>> Doug
>>
>> Doug Aitken
>> Cell phone: 713-562-8585
>> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [
> mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k s
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>> List
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>>
>> Friends,
>> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar powered airport at
> Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
>> Indian airport is the first in the world 100% powered by renewable
> energy
>>
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