[ RadSafe ] solar advances

Wed Sep 2 20:17:20 CDT 2015

Franz/Radsafe,

     USA is where I live and where I was born.  My parents are from
Germany.  Enjoyed some trips to Germany, Austria, Switzerland etc.
Saw Salzburg and a Mozart home.  Lucerne was beautiful.  Zugspitze was
beautiful.  The technical/science Museum in Munich is quite an
interesting place to visit.  Do visit it.  Haven't made it to Hawaii
yet.  Am more interested in earthquakes than Volcanoes.  Also fond
memories of the Hofbrau Haus and beer at a liter for one Mark.  We in
USA can find Wurzburg beer once in a while.  Franz, hope you get to
Southwest USA again sometimes soon.       Joe Preisig


On 9/2/15, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> Isn't it a shame, that one of these xxxx "old" Europeans (copyright
> Rumsfeld, one of the greatest US-American strategic genius (Iraq), who
> ridiculed not only Austria because we did not break our constitution by
> sending troops to support a foreign war and did not officially allow to
> transport troops and military equipment even through the sky over Austrian
> territory - they did it anyway....
>
> Just a hint on rusting and rotting wind energy equipment in the USA: I
> recommend to pay a visit to Hawaii's Big Island. At the most Southern tip
> of
> it there was at least a few years ago a very large "wind park" with a very
> large number of defunct propellers lying on the ground  (LOB-accidents?).
> Many still swirling around with a terrible noise caused by rust and
> probably
> poor maintenance. But if you go there, take at least a few weeks time to
> visit the "rest" of H. awaii. This place is to beautiful to waste time on
> spending it on wind energy! (Volcanoes, rain forest, great beaches, very
> interesting history, Hawaiian art and museums, friendly people, a special
> way of living "hanging loose"etc. etc. I enjoyed staying at "bed and
> breakfast" accomodations, getting into contact with very nice people, some
> of them even native Hawaiians. Tropical fruits and flowers and the
> overwhelming landscape formed by the volcanoes. Oahu and Honolulu was for
> me
> not very impressing, but for some it may be. Still there are very beautiful
> and interesting places there, for US Americans Pearl Harbour might be of
> great interest. More of US wind energy farms I cannot tell you, because my
> favorite places in the USA are in the South-West and there I was mostly
> interested in uranium mines, nuclear power plants I even made it to
> somwindmllse minor repositories and you might be surprised that I had even
> a
> guided visit at Hanford by a former US student who had been workng for some
> time at my laboratory in Vienna., but
>
> Driving home from Sevilla to Austria I deliberately chose in December to
> cross the mountain range of the Alpujarras north of Sevilla. I admit that I
> was interested to have a look at the "world famous" wind farm. There was a
> magnificent view from the mountains down to the plain dotted with hundreds
> of wheels, but to be a little sarcastic: It was somehow disappointing, that
> not a single one was moving. The beautiful area around the southern tip of
> Spain around the British enclave of Gibraltar is also heavily infested with
> windmills.
>
> Back to my home country: There are many lobbies who try to press through so
> called "ecologically friendly" or "renewable" energy. Some promise even
> very
> high rates on investments _more than 9%! Already now consumers have to pay
> heavily for socalled stranded costs, reimbursments to companies which had
> been prohibited by political decisions to veriyfy their plans. Practically
> all of the producers are state or county owned providers). The much higher
> costs of these "renewable" energy has to be paid by the consumers of
> course - no question. In Austria there are some areas which are very
> favourable to wind energy but protests are rising exponentially. First of
> all arguments is the negative change on the landscape. I personally do not
> think that hundreds of windmills in the landscape are a beautiful sight,
> but
> Greenpeace and similar profitroriented "NGO's" might have a different
> opinion. They claim that they preserve nature, but on the other hand
> destroy
> it. "De gustibus non est disputandum". I noticed since the last years when
> I
> travelled to Katowice in Poland that many of these ugly windmills had been
> erected in the northern parts of Austria - but neither in the Czech
> Republic
> or Poland. Maybe it is a matter of costs?
>
> So much for today. I hope you have received through my ranting a somewhat
> broader perspective and hopefully other radsafers too. I am still amazed by
> the US habit to put the USA forward as the most important place in the
> world
> and calling everything "elsewhere". Are you sure that this is justified?
>
> Best regards anyway.
>
> Franz
>
>
>
>
> ----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> From: Joseph Preisig
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 10:33 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>
> Radsafe,
>
>      Saw a news item that suggests that many wind energy
> propellers/turbines are rusting away/rotting all over the USA and
> elsewhere.
>
>      Anyone make a living recovering scrap metal???
> but si
>
>      Joe Preisig
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/2/15, Amoling, Ronald <RAmoling at as-e.com> wrote:
>> From what I've seen about residential solar systems, it seems a rinse a
>> couple of times per year with a garden hose is sufficient.  I'm sure
>> there
>> are a lot of other factors that add up when you're working with
>> commercial
>> sized systems, but an army of panel washers seems less costly and less
>> complicated than maintaining a nuke plant.
>>
>> It's interesting and exciting to see the advances in solar power.  How
>> nice
>> - 1) aim panel at sun; 2) get electricity from attached wire; 3) make it
>> better and get more electricity from attached wire.   From the most basic
>> perspective, developing/using solar power, when feasible, is a
>> no-brainer.
>> And yes I understand that there are a whole host of arguments for and
>> against (tax credits taking money from other areas of R&D, land use, and
>> on
>> and on).
>>
>> Ron Amoling
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
>> JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:11 PM
>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
>> <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>
>> Cc: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>>
>> Just a quick question  - -pls don't blow it out of proportion.
>>
>> As part of the nuclear industry (disclosure) I have a pretty good
>> understanding of nuclear plant maintenance requirements.  The question
>> is,
>> what are the maintenance requirements for solar arrays.  It seems like
>> they're pretty trouble free on the ISS, but would it be the same for an
>> 'earthly' environment..  For example, could temperature variations, dust,
>> wind, storage batteries, etc., increase maintenance costs enough to make
>> a
>> difference?
>> thx - - jmr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:   Maury <maurysis at peoplepc.com>
>> To:     radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu, JAitken at slb.com,
>> Date:   09/01/2015 02:25 PM
>> Subject:        Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>> Sent by:        radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> As you see below, this is a major airport that operates 24/7 . . .
>>
>> Cochin International Airport, Cochin, India
>>
>> Airport data
>> IATA Code: COK     ATC Tel: +91 484 261 0121     Time: UTC+5.30
>> ICAO Code: VOCI     ATC Fax: +91 484 261 0119     Runway: 3400m /
>> 11155ft (Hard)
>> *Hours of operation: 24hrs*
>> Customs: Yes ; Tel: +91 484 261 0072     Immigration: Yes ; Tel: +91 484
>> 261 0022     Fuel availability: Jet/Avgas
>> Nearest other airports: Cochin 15nm; Coimbatore 65nm; Calicut 65nm Best,
>> Maury&Dog [MaurySiskel maurysis at peoplepc.com]
>> ==================================================
>> On 9/1/2015 12:50 PM, Doug Aitken wrote:
>>> Schlumberger-Private
>>> ________________________________________
>>> It would be interesting to see how they store the electricity for
>> night-time operation.
>>> Or are they strictly a daytime operation?
>>> Regards
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> Doug Aitken
>>> Cell phone: 713-562-8585
>>> QHSE Advisor, D&M Operations Support
>>> Schlumberger Technology Corporation
>>> c/o Kathy Trosclair
>>> 300 Schlumberger Drive, MD15,
>>> Sugar Land, Texas 77478
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [
>> mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of parthasarathy k
>> s
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:08 PM
>>> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing
>>> List
>>> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] solar advances
>>>
>>> Friends,
>>> India has reportedly the world's first fully solar powered airport at
>> Cochin Capacity 1.1 MW The link:
>>> Indian airport is the first in the world 100% powered by renewable
>> energy
>>>
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