[ RadSafe ] Reference for the word 'shake' ...and other sneaky Manhattan project words

Ed Waller ed.waller at xplornet.com
Thu Feb 4 16:20:42 CST 2016


Thanks Michelle.

Got it a while ago. It has some of the terms, and you are correct, not
shake.

Best regards,
Ed

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Manhattan project words

Paul Frame from ORAU put a nice list together (a shake is not on the list).
The reference is below:

https://www.orau.org/ptp/articlesstories/names.htm

Thank you,
Michelle A. Kovach
Radiological Engineering
Materials and Fuels Complex
Research Laboratories (Analytical Laboratory/Radiochemistry Lab)
(208) 533-8874: Office/(208) 569-1442
Michelle.Kovach at inl.gov

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Ed Waller <ed.waller at xplornet.com> wrote:

> Thanks Henry. I looked up that one earlier in the day. Many decades 
> ago I got a hard copy from NTIC with the computer in the back. Not 
> sure if they are still available.
>
> I will use that reference in a pinch, but I was hoping for more of the 
> folklore.  The fact that the footnote says "is often called a shake" 
> does not belay the history of who actually coined the term.
>
> Cheers,
> Ed
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> Ed:
>
> "shake" - see The Effects of Nuclear Weapons (1977), p. 17 (pdf p.
> 24/660), footnote 4.
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> The original reference to the term might also be in prior 1950 edition 
> of this document.  The etymology of the term "shake" is not explained 
> in the footnote.
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> Henry
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>
> All,
>
> As part of some writing I am doing, I am trying to find origins of 
> terms used in the nuclear field that are somewhat obscure.
>
> I have a reference for 'barn' (Note on the origin of the term "barn", 
> Holloway and Baker, LAMS-623, 1947)
> [aside: Also, I have found some anecdotal evidence for a millibarm 
> being a 'skilodge' and a microbarn being an 'outhouse', but no 
> reference. I have also seen a reference to 1E-48 cm2 being a 'shed', 
> but again no reference.]
>
> However, some other terms, such as 'shake', I am having a harder time 
> finding a proper reference. Google has revealed lots of usage, and 
> some secondary and tertiary referencing, but I cannot believe there is 
> not a primary reference somewhere for this, and other terms like this.
>
> If anyone could help, I would be most appreciative.
>
> Best regards,
> Ed
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