[ RadSafe ] Australian Uranium in Antarctic Ice ?

Tue Jul 26 10:21:37 CDT 2016

OK, but if the background is so high -- as we can see on the map, in the
Flinders Ranges, etc. -- then why wouldn't the Antarctic uranium come from
dust raised there, rather than the mine, where surrounding region clearly
reads lower ?

Sorry, I'm not following the logic.

https://db.tt/pN8fmZNI

 Jaro
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Jaro - the background is probably too high on land to distinguish that. In
ice, it would be more distinctive, but probably just trace. That's why t
would be important to determine the other associated trace metals. Copper
would be dominant.

Dan ii

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On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 6:17 AM, Jaro Franta <jaro_10kbq at videotron.ca>
wrote:

> Dan,
> Wouldn't they also show up on the Radiometric Map, in the vicinity of RD ?
> https://db.tt/pN8fmZNI
> Thnx
>
>  Jaro
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>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Dan McCarn
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> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Australian Uranium in Antarctic Ice ?
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> Those same dusts, if they are from Roxby Downs (Olympic Dam), would 
> also have elevated levels of copper, silver, & gold.
>
> Dan W McCarn
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> > On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:55, KARAM, PHILIP <PHILIP.KARAM at nypd.org> wrote:
> >
> > I guess one question to ask is how uranium is mined in Australia. If 
> > it's
> largely open-pit mines (or some other process that generates a lot of 
> airborne dust) then it's certainly plausible. Ice cores from Greenland 
> have been shown to have elevated lead concentrations in strata 
> corresponding to the Roman Empire and are interpreted as reflecting 
> the processing of lead ore and the use of lead by the Romans. And we 
> know (as someone else mentioned earlier) that African dust has been 
> tracked across the Atlantic, as has Chinese dust across the Pacific. 
> So the thought that Australian dust might make its way to the 
> Antarctic Peninsula is certainly reasonable - if the uranium is mined or
processed in such a way that generates dust.
> >
> > Andy
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Jaro 
> > Franta
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:46 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Australian Uranium in Antarctic Ice ?
> >
> > Or, to be precise, Uranium from Australian MINES is claimed to be 
> > found
> in
> Antarctic ice.
> >
> > What do you make of it ?
> >
> > http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1352231016304423
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > My thoughts:
> >
> > Looking closely at a Radiometric Map of Australia (
> https://db.tt/pN8fmZNI
> ), I see that the region around Roxby Downs, the town next to Olympic 
> Dam mine (producers of both uranium & copper) has a low surface 
> concentration of uranium.
> > Certainly lower than the Flinders Ranges to the east, or other areas 
> > to
> the south.
> > That being the case, how can lead researcher Mariusz Potocki 
> > reasonably
> expect readers to believe his claim that uranium found in Antarctica 
> comes from Australian uranium mines ?
> > Does he propose some sort of magical transport mechanism that avoids 
> > the
> regions where mines are located, going directly to Antarctica ?
> >
> > It seems that, if anything, the Uranium found in Antarctic ice must 
> > be dust from the erosion of the Flinders Range and other large 
> > geological features that standout in the Radiometric Map of 
> > Australia ( https://db.tt/pN8fmZNI )
> >
> > Is there similar experience elsewhere in the world, such as dust 
> > blowing
> off the Sahara desert, from U-loaded phosphate deposits ?
> > How much is from mining, and how much from general soil erosion ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Jaro Franta
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >
> > .
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