[ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki, Iwate Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi

Tue May 24 11:59:44 CDT 2016

Hello Franz, 

I agree. The public does not understand and these groups desire to keep it that way. The current public will never be educated, however, the education must begin when a child is at an early age, which means that this will take a generation or two before the appropriate message is understood. The current population is essentially lost and will continue to be swayed by individual with an agenda and the promotion of inaccurate data. We should speak out whenever, and if we are able to convince one individual with accurate information, then that is a good thing.

Regards,

Sandy
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> On May 24, 2016, at 09:54, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
> 
> I face the ignorance and the prepotence (?) of the "public" whenever I open certain newspapers (not only with regard to nuclear!). I know for sure that the public does not understand this, but they do not acknowledge that they have not the same knowledge as somebody who is has studied these topics for years or even worked in this field for decades. Yes, "we are all blind to the dangers, we are all bribed". Students with one year of studies and not even any courses can the act as "experts" in our newspapers. Anyway everybody from certain highly commercial companies (like Greenpeace) is by definition an expert. Yes the public does not understand this, but that's the method of these groups, to frighten the public, then they will donate. It seems we are back to the middle ages, when the church (then Roman Catholic) did more or less the same to frighten people from hell and they had to "donate" and work for free to build churches and bishops
> palaces. Look at the methods of Goebbels to "convince" people of the necessity of total war. Look at other more recent regimes (including the socialist ones) - they do not behave much differently.  I conclude there is good tradition in this game. Further conclusion: It is in the interest of these groups that the public doesn't not understand what is going on. Any comments that the public has to be educated are in my opinion ridiculous: "I have made up my mind, don't disturbe me with facts."
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Franz
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Sander Perle
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 7:58 PM
> To: The International Radiation Protection (Health Physics) Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki, Iwate Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi
> 
> Yes, the reading by itself is meaningless, as many have stated. However, the range of readings are insignificant, and of no concern. However, consider that the public will not understand this and will be concerned. Unfortunate.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sandy
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 23, 2016, at 10:27, Sander Perle <sandyfl at cox.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Franz, all accurate as you stated. However, from a pure sense, the dose rate if uSv/hour, the annual value would be the 1.58 mSv.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Sandy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 23, 2016, at 09:47, Franz Schönhofer <franz.schoenhofer at chello.at> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Roger,
>>> 
>>> At first glance I see that there are no units visible on the scale of the
>>> "meter" - dose meter, dose ratemeter, ratemeter or whatever it is supposed
>>> to be. However the chance seems to be high that it might be microSievert.
>>> Environmental doserates do not make any sense when measured in contact with
>>> some obviously tiny sources - this can easily be proved by using a small
>>> radioactive object like a watch with radium dials or a small piece of uranium
>>> ore and a dose rate -, ratemeter. So there is no meaning of the numbers shown.
>>> Therefore - sorry Dan your calculation is misleading: The doserate in close contact with a tiny speck of radioactive material cannot be used to calculate the whole body dose to a person. I am happy that this is not the case, because have a large collection of uranium ore, thorium ore, uranium stained glass and ceramics like fiesta ware, watches with real radiumdials, historical radioactive compounds (Joachimsthal) etc. etc. many of them on display in my flat. Please don't tell the Austrian authorities, because it is forbidden to own any (!!) fissionable material. I have been wondering, whether the uranium containing granite stones which make up a high share of our pavements and streets in Vienna will be removed or most of the granite stones at our graveyards. (No answer yet.)
>>> 
>>> So far my comment on this "scientific" and terrifying video. It would be good for an examination for future health physcists: "What is wrong in this video?"
>>> 
>>> Best regards again!
>>> 
>>> Franz
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Roger Helbig
>>> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> To: RADSAFE
>>> Subject: [ RadSafe ] Video of Meter - Up to 10,20 µSv in Ichinoseki, Iwate
>>> Prefecture 163km from Fukushima Dai-ichi
>>> 
>>> https://nuclear-news.net/2016/05/22/up-to-1020-%C2%B5sv-in-ichinoseki-iwate-prefecture-163km-from-fukushima-dai-ichi/
>>> 
>>> Is this meter or its reader perhaps being mislead due to lack of
>>> experience or other cause?
>>> 
>>> Roger Helbig
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